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susy susy VIC Posts: 37
1 3 Oct 2015
Sorry lm sure this topic has been posted before but lm new here and havent seen any previous toothpaste posts.

What cruelty free vegan toothpaste do you use?

Theres a handful listed on CCF but im not familiar with any of them. Im assuming this is one of those products I may have to drive across town for.
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Khazlariko Khazlariko NSW Posts: 9
2 4 Oct 2015
Red Seal - Herbal toothpaste from Coles. I believe the "Propolis" one is not vegan (not that that gets stocked here).
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susy susy VIC Posts: 37
3 4 Oct 2015
Thanks will check it out.

lve been using White Glo as they claim not to test on animals. However they dont say so on their packaging. Im always dubious when this is the case.
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ChantelleGC ChantelleGC NSW Posts: 3
4 5 Oct 2015
I use WhiteGlo too. It says on their website I'm pretty sure that they're cruelty free. At the moment I'm using Grant's Toothpaste. happy
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susy susy VIC Posts: 37
5 6 Oct 2015
"Dear Susan,

 Thank you for your email and interest in White Glo.

 We are pleased to confirm that all White Glo products are 100% Vegan friendly, and contain no ingredients derived from animals. White Glo is strictly against animal testing in both the development phase and finished product testing.

 Furthermore we are currently in the process of acquiring accreditation through Choose Cruelty Free. Notably it is quite a lengthy process so we hope to gain accreditation soon.

Please note that we don’t import our products into China - we do manufacture and distribute our products within China, and because they are produced domestically they are not legally required for animal testing."

We hope this has helped to answer your questions. If you have any further questions please feel free to contact us"


......Confused....I thought if a product is imported to China mandatory testing is required.
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robert99 robert99 Sweden Posts: 1360
6 6 Oct 2015
http://www.choosecrueltyfree.org.au/ccf-accreditation/

"Criteria for Accreditation
The manufacturer of products and all related corporations (if any) must satisfy one of the following criteria:
The never tested rule
None of its products and none of its product ingredients have ever been tested on animals by it, by anyone on its behalf, by its suppliers or anyone on their behalf.

The five year (or +) rolling rule
None of its products and none of its product ingredients have been tested on animals by it, by anyone on its behalf, by its suppliers or anyone on their behalf at any time within a period of five years immediately preceding the date of application for accreditation.

Unlike other lists of cruelty-free companies, CCF also has a strict policy on animal-derived ingredients."
I don't see why it should take so long. Contact CCF at  http://www.choosecrueltyfree.org.au/contact-ccf/  and ask them if  Barros Laboratories Pty Ltd  have applied. You can refer to the e-mail you've got from them.

Keep on diggin'!  

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susy susy VIC Posts: 37
7 7 Oct 2015
Thanks for all your help in my transition Robert. Much appreciated!

l thought I was onto a winner with Grants toothpaste because theyre labeled not tested on animals.....then I got this from Peta

"Hi Susan,

Sure, happy to! The issue with labelling is that there are no definitive terms for companies in regards to branding a product cruelty-free. Because there are no legal definitions for products not tested on animals, it is possible that companies use them to their own ends.

It isn't always possible to tell if a company is 100% cruelty free just based on its labelling. Some companies may contract out tests on animals when vetting certain ingredients or products yet label its finished products as cruelty-free. It is possible that companies are using ingredients that have been tested on animals at some point, but if they haven't performed the tests themselves they can claim that "

Basically Peta said if a product is not on a cruelty free list it cant be 100% trusted.

I really have to do my homework and find out where to access these mostly obscure products. Ive never even heard of 99% of them confused
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HarvestMoon HarvestMoon NSW Posts: 23
8 7 Oct 2015
I've been using this one for a while: http://www.sante.de/en/produkte/zahnpflege/dental-med-zahncreme-vitamin-b12/

Tastes pretty awful but does the job.
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robert99 robert99 Sweden Posts: 1360
9 7 Oct 2015
You can always make your own toothpaste - cheap too
http://www.diynatural.com/homemade-toothpaste/
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susy susy VIC Posts: 37
10 11 Oct 2015
Update on white glo.....


Hi Susan

We receive so many consumer queries about White Glo. The brand owner Barros Laboratories always claim to be “working on it” but our records show they don’t have an application form, they really only made initial enquiries after we wrote to them and invited them to apply. February 2014 was about the last time I heard anything from them. We gave up! Sigh…


Toothpaste has been considered a cosmetic since October 2013 in China. In February 2015 we sought clarification on registration requirements for toothpastes direct from the Chinese regulator (CIRS). CIRS confirmed is it a cosmetic but registration and animal-testing is not required, for now. That may change in the future. White Glo is made in China for the Chinese domestic market, but animal-testing is not required as at 6 March 2015.

....Bi carb sodas looking good!

 

For that one product that they make (White Glo) it’s probably safe to assume the finished product has not been animal-tested but, of course, we don’t know about ingredients. And we also don’t know about whether Barros Laboratories is involved in animal-testing in other areas as they make so many hundreds of products.
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