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4 da animals is cool I am sure its more a parent thing as I have said in previous posts.

but please remember! What you think you know about Meat etc may not be all there is to the story, you know "they" hide the cruelty from us, what about health implications? Protein from animal sources has always been considered by our society to be the "highest quality" of protein available. More recently studies have shown that this is now not true and that the human body thrives on plant proteins alone. Further studies have shown that animal protein (particularly Casein, the protein found exclusively in Cow's milk, its makes up 87% of cows milk) actually promotes cancer growth, high blood cholesterol and other has other negative effects on the body. Subjects in the study who were given diets of plant protein only, that had cancerous tumours prior to the diet change, saw massive decrease in the size and foci response (indicators of tumour growth) when switched to a "vegan" diet. Casein also promotes initiation and promotion of Breast Cancer tumours in study subjects. Breast Cancer rates of countries around the world are on a consistent curve line with the ammount of animal fat consumed on average by that nation (not plant based fat). The evidence is conclusive every time, every test. Even CSIRO has admitted that diets high in Red meat are probably going to be bad for your health after they amazing diet book release that said we should eat steak, steak, steak just years before.
This is just the tip of the iceberg: MLA as well as Dairy Australia and all the other entities who make money from you buying their animal products pay thousands of dollars (think tacky Sam Neil monkey ads for red meat) to make you think that you are going to be a growth stunted, retarted de-evolved monkey who's bones are crumbling if you dont eat animal products. Dont become brainwashed with rubbish,
for example just the other day I was perusing a leaflet from my Doctors Surgery which was full of great info about Osteoporosis and how to prevent it etc. on the back page in the tinest font it said the brochure was produced and funded by the Dairy Good Association. I am sure you can guess what the leaflet suggested - dairy, dairy, dairy, everyday for good bone health. Yuk. This is the information I trust from my doctors surgery, dont believe everything you read. I dont need to be Einstein to convert their 2 glasses of milk recomendation into 2 glasses of soymilk, or a similair ammount of orange juice.

i know heaps and heaps of people here, and around the world, disagree with people consuming animal products. i am one of them.

but i think if you're not an abolitionist, engaging with indepedent farmers is a worthwhile thing to do politically.

together, vegans + independent farms + the supporters who come with the farmers, are a much bigger group of people which means a greater chance of wlefare reform as we are recognized to a far greater extent by our country's decision makers.

mobilized, we represent not just "radical militant left wing loon hippy vegans", but also respected (and sometimes conservative) people. farmers are a kind of people Australians greatly respect and are always very happy to help support.

remember, before the multinationals took control of agriculture and turned it into an "agribusiness" utlilizing factory farms, all the food we eat (animal and non-animal product), was produced by arguably 'more ethical' independent, family farms.

i think by totally dismissing the said points by the poster, we miss a golden opportunity to futher our cause for the animals.... if you're not an abolitionist that is!

you have a very good point, but don't worry i am becoming veg asap. for instance i am going to boarding school nxt year and they provide vegetarian options so i will be definatly taking that. As for affording to buy free range, my mum buys it from local producers for our whole family so its cheaper. Unfortunatly its basically up to my mum on wheher i can be a vege or not atm as i live in her house and she cooks the meals, she doesnt allow me in the kitchen. now i am not giving my age for privacy reasons but i am still in my teens and i do eat vege meals whenever possible like going out and such, same for eating vegan meals on the rare times that option is possible.  Also free range is alot better for people who want to eat meat and can afford it rather than eating from factory farmed products.Now when i said that if they live a good life im ok with eatiing them i mean for now, i hate eating animals but for the moment, i am doing what i can. thankyou so much for your opinion i value it and you have given me some ideas for the future.

I understand your points, all good points. But its not just meat. Our seeds, vegetables are in jeopardy too. I just watched 'The world according to Monsanto', google and watch it.
Its a disaster.

I completely agree. Corporate agribusiness is threatening all sorts of family farms.

i agree with both of you

i forgot to add before i think matt has explained what i was attempting to say a bit betta

I concur.

ughh have to agree that after watching that Monsanto film tonight (OMG!) I have to agree to support independent farmers if you have to make the choice between the two. Everyone should watch that film, its intense! I knew about BGH and Agent Orange but the rest ! wow. The Round up ready Soy beans are a worry, they have been around for decades!

I know, I just found out my brothers girlfriends dad is using it. I sent them the film and they are chucking all their roundup out and all that crap. Thats one farmer down, off roundup. I wonder how many farmers are using it, it needs to stop if we want to save our seeds.

Its interesting, ive been researching since the doco. Order 81 was introduced in Iraq which has made it illegal for Iraqi farmers to use their own seeds. Its ludicrous because Iraq  is where wheat cultivation was first developed, this is the birthplace of human civilization. These Iraqi farmers have 1000s of traditional seed variates from 4000 BC which has kept their civilization alive, now they have been made illegal and they have to buy seeds from mansanto and other big corps.

Read about it here, shocking stuff  http://www.uruknet.info/index.php?p=47991