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What i want to be when i grow up ?

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ckimana ckimana NSW Posts: 2545
31 5 Mar 2010
RaV3N said:
ckimana said:
Matt. Y said:
ckimana said:
RaV3N said:
I am against pointless dissection... the stuff done in high school for biology for example.

But at uni - when you want to become a vet.... I think it's needed. Unfortunately. Gotta be cruel to be kind. You can't expect to read text books about how to perform a certain procedure, and then get the chance to do said procedure on a live patient, only to balls up because you cut the wrong thing... "well that's what it looked like in that text book!"
Hear, hear!
Are you justifying dissection on already-deceased animals (i.e. who have died of natural causes), or are you justifying the euthanizing of healthy animals to be used for science.

I support the former, but the justfication of the killing of innocents scares me. What makes the animal euthanized for science any less important than all those animals that will be saved by the vet's/doctor's/nurse's skills in the future?
I don't think anyone said they were for euthanasing healthy animals for the sake of science!  But dissecting deceased animals is important not only for learning anatomy (you can only learn so much from a textbook) but also on practicising surgical incision.

Thesedays, students can also perform actual surgeries ie desexing under a veterinarian's supervision.
Murdoch Uni here in Perth runs a 24hr emergency department run by veterinary students under the watchful eyes of qualified vets. But in saying this - you go to that vet KNOWING that the person performing treatments on your pet is a student.

And I NEVER said anything about euthansing healthy animals for dissection! That is just plain wrong. Clearly. But on that note I think the RSPCA and other shelters, if they haven't already, should set up a program where they send the deceased bodies on animals on to universities for study such as this. Those animals should have at least died for something, rather than nothing.
Yep! I hear ya! *looking for that damn whip lash* Lol!

Also, there are still pounds that still send animals to uni's for scientific purposes.

Guys, check out the following site for a petition:

http://www.aahr.org.au/campaigns/dog_poundsQLD.html
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afimelb afimelb VIC Posts: 141
32 6 Mar 2010
during my biological sciences course i had to dissect many animals inlcuding a chicken, frog, snail, rat, cockroach, if you want to become a vet you need to be able to put animals down ,personally i couldnt do that so ive changed courses into an environmental health course.. its up to you
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afimelb afimelb VIC Posts: 141
33 6 Mar 2010
they breed the animals to sell them for dissections... pretty nasty
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Shelley-Sea-Shells Shelley-Sea-Shells QLD Posts: 48
34 10 Mar 2010
sorry I'm replying so late on this forum...

I was studying vet science at the University of Queensland (UQ) and had to drop out. I wanted to be a vet to help animals but UQ doesn’t care AT ALL about animal welfare! They are VERY pro-farming (ie pro animal slaughter) and won't see any other perspective.

The other reason I dropped out is because I learnt more about what being a vet actually entails. Dog breeding in particular can be very ruthless and you’ll often have to see dogs that have very painful genetic defects because of the way humans have bred them. For example, the King Charles spaniel is bred to have a very small head (because people think that’s ‘cute’). However, many of them now have a very painful condition where the brain is too big to fit in their tiny skull. This can become so severe and painful that the animal would need to be put down, and yet people still support the breeders by purchasing such breeds. Could you handle seeing that every day? There are many breeds that are the same.

Breeders will often ask vets to put-down breeds that are ‘not perfect’ according the dog breed standard. So if a ridgeback is born without a ridge (very common) the breeders won’t want it because it can’t sell for as much, and many vets will comply!

So I don’t know what I’m going to do with my life now either! At least you have a long time to think about it
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animal animal VIC Posts: 23
35 10 Mar 2010
Maybe a MARINE BIOLOGIST or a ZOOOLOGIST.
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Steph* Steph* NSW Posts: 49
36 9 Aug 2010
Shelley-Sea-Shells said:
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I was studying vet science at the University of Queensland (UQ) and had to drop out. I wanted to be a vet to help animals but UQ doesn’t care AT ALL about animal welfare! They are VERY pro-farming (ie pro animal slaughter) and won't see any other perspective.
Did you consider transferring to vet at another uni? For example, University of Sydney has ceased all terminal surgeries & killing of animals, and instead sends students out for their final year to work in clinics and get the practical experience they need doing surgery on animals that actually will benefit from it. Murdoch Uni still has a couple of live animal surgeries I believe, but they have a really good Conscientious Objection policy where you can apply to your lecturer not to do these, and instead do an alternative assessment e.g. so many neuters at their Vet Hospital. They've also recently brought in the entire final year of clinic placements.

Don't give up just because one Uni is completely outdated!!
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ZoolNerd ZoolNerd NSW Posts: 1005
37 9 Aug 2010
YES! Being vet is much more antomy based so of course you must study the animals internals. and Sorry but most Universities will not let you get away with your animal activism because you must learn by means other than A textbook. But yes marine science and more closely, zoology doesnt vocus on the internals, more on ecology or behaviour. You can go in reserch with helping to prevent and save endagered animals (which at the end of the day, saving a sumartian tiger is more benifical for the envionment then saving a breeders inbred puppy, as harsh as it sounds). You can also go into conservation and go right down to the core of saving animals envionments, breeding grounds, protecting from predators (humans as well) you will be REALLY making a difference. It also involves alot of getting into the wild and getting dirty. Im talking about getting rare bat urine on you, or the breathe of a lion in your face, or the water blown from a whales blow hole soaking you. Its real adventure and rewarding. Best of all Zoology isnt as difficult to get into as Vertinary science.

As said before, vet science is HARDER than studying B Surgery as you must MEMORISE NUMROUS BODY SYSTEMS.

The ATAR for my course (B Zool, at UNE) is 72. But you can also study a science bachelor and major in biology, or zoology.

Theres so many options. Dont worry now just enjoy school! I didnt know what I wanted to do until this year, before that I only had ideas.

So dont stress, just know there are PLENTY of choices other than Vet science

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