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PETA's Australian sheep campain!

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Joshio Joshio VIC Posts: 24
1 19 Apr 2010
Just wondering if anyone read the article in the Herald Sun on Saturday about PETA offering the Australian Government a mulesing deal against the Australian farmers mulesing our sheep..

If not then have a read if you like..
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/breaking-news/animal-rights-group-peta-offers-australian-government-mulesing-deal/story-e6frf7jx-1225854837373

I especially like this campaign because PETA claims that mulesing can be phased out entirely in less than 2 years!!! This is definitely a doable thing for Australian Farmers I must say!
Also, pretty awesome that Peta's "global boycott campaign has led Hugo Boss, Abercrombie & Fitch, Timberland, H&M and more than 10 other global retailers to reject Australian wool"

Let's do it for the sheep! happy

Chuck us some thoughts!
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_Matt _Matt VIC Posts: 1567
2 19 Apr 2010
ahhh, awesome news!
can't wait to intern for them!
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4_da_animals1 4_da_animals1 SA Posts: 3293
3 20 Apr 2010
sorry, im all for being against animal cruelty, which is one of the many reasons why im against peta. I don't agree with peta so im not going to support this campaign. sorry  peace
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_Matt _Matt VIC Posts: 1567
4 20 Apr 2010
4_da_animals1 said:
sorry, im all for being against animal cruelty, which is one of the many reasons why im against peta. I don't agree with peta so im not going to support this campaign. sorry  peace
and how is PETA not against animal cruelty?

the question is open to anyone.

because while i lovepeople asking questions of things already established, i hate hate hate this culture i'm finding of people hating PETA.
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4_da_animals1 4_da_animals1 SA Posts: 3293
5 20 Apr 2010
in my opinion i find that they don't care about the treatment of animals, more they care about gaining a win or media attention. For instance with the banning of jumps horse racing in victoria, they wanted it banned immediatly, not phased out. Banning immediatly would cause a "win" even though all those horses who knew nothing but racing would get slaughtered as a result because they know nothing else and because the owners wouldn't know what to do with them, wouldn't be able to afford to keep them any longer. i personally didn't agree with jumps racing but i would of preferred to phase it out so that those horses could live out the rest of their lives, and no new ones were brought in. But did PETA think about the after effect of those horses still racing once they immediatly banned it?  this is just one of many examples that have developed my opinion on PETA.
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Buttons Buttons VIC Posts: 229
6 20 Apr 2010
Why can't they just adopt techniques used by other countries, such as New Zealand? Is it because of the breeds of sheep they use in NZ are different to those used by AUS producers?
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Joshio Joshio VIC Posts: 24
7 20 Apr 2010
I'm pretty sure we can adopt another technique, that's why it's stupid to continue what we're doing right now. I mean, other countries are doing it. It'sall up to the Australian Farmers now.
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Buttons Buttons VIC Posts: 229
8 20 Apr 2010
"Chairman of Australian Wool Innovation, Wal Merriman, says pursuing the mulesing deadline could lead to a serious deterioration in the welfare of sheep.

"I think it's silly talking about deadlines on research and dates on research, because research just doesn't have a deadline and a date," he says."

"I mean, research falls over, as we've seen."

http://www.abc.net.au/rural/news/content/200907/s2637123.htm

Research doesn't have to start from scratch. Mr Merriman seems to be implying that it does. Here's an idea - see what other wool industries throughout the world have done, and attempt to replicate their solutions. On a small scale at first, of course. Then you can iron out the kinks/judge the effectiveness of such measures in the context of Australian farming.

He sounds just like those pork industry folks clinging to the idea that sow stalls are best practice, and that there are no other viable alternatives.
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_Matt _Matt VIC Posts: 1567
9 20 Apr 2010
4_da_animals1 said:
in my opinion i find that they don't care about the treatment of animals, more they care about gaining a win or media attention.
Sorry, are you saying a "win" for PETA is not a "win" for animals? Are you saying PETA holds a secret agenda. I, and PETA's multimillion membership, are of the belief that PETA's prime concern are the animals.

In regard to media attention, you have to accept without media nothing will get done. Employing media means that the message of animal protection gets out to millions of more people than it would without it. But the trick is how to get the media's attention. Sadly, the abuse that goes on inside factory farms is simply not enough. There needs to be excitement around a campaign, and this is where PETA excels. Sometimes, many people think how this excitement is generated goes too far. But at the end of the day, what would you prefer: an adult conscenting to brave freezing tempreatures in a bikini, campaigning on the cruelty of fur (and getting the evidence of how disgusting uir farms are, making people buy less of it; or, the average-joe standing outside burberry with a placard, achieving nothing for the animals.

Animal lives are literally on the line. PETA is totally in its right to push the animal protection message to its extreme. I mean, isn't saving the lives of innocents worth the risk of a media-stuff up.

4_da_animals1 said:
For instance with the banning of jumps horse racing in victoria, they wanted it banned immediatly, not phased out. Banning immediatly would cause a "win" even though all those horses who knew nothing but racing would get slaughtered as a result because they know nothing else and because the owners wouldn't know what to do with them, wouldn't be able to afford to keep them any longer. i personally didn't agree with jumps racing but i would of preferred to phase it out so that those horses could live out the rest of their lives, and no new ones were brought in. But did PETA think about the after effect of those horses still racing once they immediatly banned it?  this is just one of many examples that have developed my opinion on PETA.
Do you have any evidence of PETA's alledged policy on Jumps Racing in Australia?

I don't diagree with a call to immediately ban the sport - as the Coaltion for the Protection of Race Horses has been call for. I'm just interested to see PETA's view on the issue, as I'm unable to find it. Thanks.
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jack jack VIC Posts: 1463
10 20 Apr 2010
4_da_animals1 said:
in my opinion i find that they don't care about the treatment of animals, more they care about gaining a win or media attention. For instance with the banning of jumps horse racing in victoria, they wanted it banned immediatly, not phased out. Banning immediatly would cause a "win" even though all those horses who knew nothing but racing would get slaughtered as a result because they know nothing else and because the owners wouldn't know what to do with them, wouldn't be able to afford to keep them any longer. i personally didn't agree with jumps racing but i would of preferred to phase it out so that those horses could live out the rest of their lives, and no new ones were brought in. But did PETA think about the after effect of those horses still racing once they immediatly banned it?  this is just one of many examples that have developed my opinion on PETA.
this is not too be rude
but are you vegetarian and vegan yet??
becuase until u are u contribute to animal cruelty and people who bag other activists im my mind are just as bad as slaughterhouse workers
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