Cesar Millan kicks dogs!

Once again I don't see how spraying a dog with water which is what Steve Austin recommends or tying them up for bad behaviour is in tune with the dogs interests.

What is in the dogs interest is to trust a strong leader to keep them safe and provide what they need. Cesar provides this.

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We do not treat disobedient kids like Cesar Milan treats dogs, because while it may satisfy our immediate interests (turning them into obedient kids), it is against the interest of the child, and we recognise this. I'm arguing that treating a dog like Cesar Milan does is against the dogs interests.
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There are many ways to guide a child to be obedient & it is different for every child.

Okay just to be fair, Jaydin didn't say anything about Steve Austin, I did. They have not promoted him.

I know that was kinda directed at you lol I know you're watching

Look of course I am defending Cesar, my dogs are beautiful and balanced since I used his techniques, what better evidence do I personally need. They play nicely with other dogs at the dog park, walk nicely beside me on a leash, they listen when asked, play nicely with kids, they are not a lawsuit waiting to happen because I tell them when they are partaking in unwanted behaviour. Emotional issues are clear in dogs, they don't conceal them like people do, my dogs do not have emotional issues from being told No.

I am up at 5am every day to walk & train my dog and 2 rescues for an hour, then again after work which I doubt most people do. I put alot of effort into them and am not a cruel or aggressive owner. My dogs just know what is required of them.

Yeah Im watching but I clearly stated that I was done arguing. Stop trying to bring me back into this, we're going to butt heads continually.

I'm out. I don't want to argue either.
I have enough to worry about without trying to defend myself for being looked upon like an idiot for following Cesars techniques.

You try taking in abandoned head case dogs as an inexperienced young girl and then judge me.
We have done wonders for these dogs.

I have not mentioned spraying dogs with water, Steve Austin, or tying up dogs once.

This is a completely unsubstantiated assertion. You need to argue for this, and if successful, will establish it. But you cannot just assume it from the start.

This reply is quite vague, and even though I do not suspect you condone it, I must ask, just to be sure: Do you think that one of the ways to guide a child to be obedient is to treat them as Cesar Milan treats dogs?


Since you have not yet supplied a definition of a 'balanced' dog, one can only assume that what you mean by a balanced dog is one acting like one of Cesar Milan's dogs. In which case I agree, your dogs are 'balanced.' But as the articles I provided show, many experts in dog training disagree with Milan's (and by extension, your) definition of 'balanced.'

I'm sorry but all the reasons you gave for a 'balanced' dog sound like the dog is acting in your interests, there is no indication you are acting in the dogs interests. You don't need to justify your techniques to us, yet you have offered your testimony as evidence in favour of the credibility of Cesar Milan and his methods. So your techniques will have to be assessed if they are going to be used as evidence.

Still no comment on the articles.

You are clearly bored and I have better things to do.
Let's agree to disagree.

I'm not bored, I'm concerned for your dog. But we can disagree.

Jaydin,
by balanced I mean they are exercised well, so they do not have pent up energy coming out in negative ways.
They are not aggressive, they are not fearful or anxious. They do not try to dominate me or children etc.(which is important for a dog living with children) I provide my dogs with what they need as 'dogs'. They go to the dog park of an afternoon and have a huge run off leash too with other dogs, playing ball etc
They are happy dogs