organ donation

Well then every creature on Earth lives a guilty existence then doesn't it.


Even if it ate a leaf which had a bug on it.


Oh but humans have the intelligence and moral greatness to know it is inherently and intrinsically wrong, animals are too stupid.. to stand on two feet... ... form parliament and become Vegans.



~                          -                               ~

Is that why pigs and chimpanzees are omniverous? Or are you saying that we're more evolved than them?

This says it all. Unbelievable.

WOW. I can't believe what I'm reading.

Only if you consider them (the stipulated recipient) to be ignorant of this (their impact/way of life), your wow factor exists.

But for some who live their life to save animals FROM PEOPLE.

IT makes COMPLETE sense not to devote your ORGANS to the probability of ending up in something which opposes all you were.

I mean... there are extreme instances where... the heart of a person in another's body induces memories not of their own...

It is a very intimate and binding thing... imagine living on.. after death, in the pulse of an organ... which is now beating through the mind of a Hunter... who shoots animals for fun.

Maybe lost their OWN heart in a hunting accident


It isn't selfish NOT to donate to a SICK SOCIETY....

you can't keep peoples body parts living on after they die... it isn't YOUR prejudice that is going to make ANYONE change their mind either...

Of course it is based on incidence not persuasion... and like ~ said... if it were a Vegan... they'd not even contemplate... which is more than most... esp non-animal conscious people, generally in this era are those being raised into a life style and thus are less conscious of self than those who are influenced by their senses to abstain from something.

*sigh...

I'm sure ~ would give their organs to a meat eater, who is a lovely person.. and doesn't revel in eating flesh... ... i'm sure if the right person needed it and they could see the resolve... being Vegan wouldn't stop them... just ideologically ... based on ideals of what an IDEAL vegan is haha there are some 'shocking ones'.

But if ~ was in hospital and the doctor asked "hey.. there stranger does ~ want to give their spare kidney to this meat eater! would this be fine with them ethically and in this instance?"

I'm not going to say "SUUUREEE!!! ~ is LOVELY! They won't mind at all when they wake up!... AND if they do have a problem with it... WOW that is incredibly insensitive of them."

Just a question Paulv, if you saw a fox caught in a trap, would you set it free, knowing that if you didn't it would either starve or get killed by a farmer ect. ?

What if it was a child?

Ahh, my boy friend was an omni,

Then he went vegetarian!

So imagine, you could donate your organs to an omni, who might just go vegetarian/vegan anyway!

You know, not donating organs seems like a pretty inefficient way to avoid harm to animals. I mean, it only reduces the number of meat eaters by one, and only if they needed organs and you were sadly in a state that yours could have been used. You'd save a lot more animal lives by grabbing a claw hammer and killing some random folk on the street.As has already been pointed out, chances are all or most of them would be meat eaters. Even better if they are children; they still have more meat-eating years ahead of them.

Sound a bit extreme? Fair enough - instead just don't throw a rope to a drowning person. They are probably a meat eater. And don't do CPR - that person will probably accidentally run over more than one animal in their remaining years - hardly a win for animals, even if you were lucky enough to save a vegan.
Hell, vote against free government provided healthcare. It just prolongs lives, most of which will be the lives of meat-eaters.

(donate or don't - I don't much care. I just care that apparent logic-derived ethical arguments are followed to their endpoint)

We make the decision to be vegans and vegetarians to save lives. Full stop. What happens after that is out of our hands.

My cousin was born with cystic fibrosis. He's had a bloody hard time and now at age 14 is awaiting a life saving lung transplant. Without it he will die. Some of you would rather your organs go in the bin than save him? He's 14! There are children even younger than him needing transplants, as well as many vegans and vegetarians who you would deny the chance of life to just in case your organs end up in the hands of a meat eater. Well I'd prefer my organs don't go to a right-wing politician, but for the chance of them saving someone like my cousin, who bloody cares!?