self righteous? Not eating animals is right. No self about it. and just because you did something bad once doesnt excuse people doing it now.
Not everyone is educated or concerned about animal welfare.
Exactly. But that doesn't mean they deserve to die.
You're not addressing the topic, you are not telling me why I should support a person whose lifestyle will result in evil and suffering. Just because they are human? education has nothing to do with it, its the act of food being supplied to them whether they know it or not that came from suffering. If you're fine with the suffering ok, i'm not.
Logically speaking, if you're not okay with suffering, then why are you okay with a human suffering?
its a matter of preventing the most suffering possible. One person eats a lot more animals and causes a lot more suffering if they eat meat . simple equation. prevent the most suffering possible. I dont wish anyone suffering but i have to do my best, and my main concern is that of animals. Its why i'm on unleashed, ANIMALS
self righteous? Not eating animals is right. No self about it. and just because you did something bad once doesnt excuse people doing it now.
Not everyone is educated or concerned about animal welfare.
Exactly. But that doesn't mean they deserve to die.
You're not addressing the topic, you are not telling me why I should support a person whose lifestyle will result in evil and suffering. Just because they are human? education has nothing to do with it, its the act of food being supplied to them whether they know it or not that came from suffering. If you're fine with the suffering ok, i'm not.
Logically speaking, if you're not okay with suffering, then why are you okay with a human suffering?
I don't think anybody here is okay with any kind of suffering. The point PaulV is trying to get across is that many animals suffer because of a single meat eater.
self righteous? Not eating animals is right. No self about it. and just because you did something bad once doesnt excuse people doing it now.
Not everyone is educated or concerned about animal welfare.
Exactly. But that doesn't mean they deserve to die.
You're not addressing the topic, you are not telling me why I should support a person whose lifestyle will result in evil and suffering. Just because they are human? education has nothing to do with it, its the act of food being supplied to them whether they know it or not that came from suffering. If you're fine with the suffering ok, i'm not.
Logically speaking, if you're not okay with suffering, then why are you okay with a human suffering?
I don't think anybody here is okay with any kind of suffering. The point PaulV is trying to get across is that many animals suffer because of a single meat eater.
So how far does this go? Vegans and vegetarians can still buy clothes made in sweat shops, hit people with their cars, eat at KFC, join the army, support war and genocide, etc. Would one have to fill out some sort of a questionnaire in order to be considered worthy enough to be saved?
self righteous? Not eating animals is right. No self about it. and just because you did something bad once doesnt excuse people doing it now.
Not everyone is educated or concerned about animal welfare.
Exactly. But that doesn't mean they deserve to die.
You're not addressing the topic, you are not telling me why I should support a person whose lifestyle will result in evil and suffering. Just because they are human? education has nothing to do with it, its the act of food being supplied to them whether they know it or not that came from suffering. If you're fine with the suffering ok, i'm not.
Logically speaking, if you're not okay with suffering, then why are you okay with a human suffering?
its a matter of preventing the most suffering possible. One person eats a lot more animals and causes a lot more suffering if they eat meat . simple equation. prevent the most suffering possible.
One person dying because a vegan didn't want them to have their organ causes significant suffering. Suffering for them, suffering for the life of their unborn child their now widowed wife has in their womb, suffering for their also sick mother or family who relied on them financially, suffering for their community, etc. It's a matter of preventing the most suffering possible. Simple equation. Prevent the most suffering possible.
PaulD, as I said before, I hope you're not having children. You wouldn't want to cause harm to some animals down the track because you wanted to have sex and reproduce.
So how far does this go? Vegans and vegetarians can still buy clothes made in sweat shops, hit people with their cars, eat at KFC, join the army, support war and genocide, etc. Would one have to fill out some sort of a questionnaire in order to be considered worthy enough to be saved?
As far as a vegan on their high horse wants it to go... So probably pretty far.
I'd be happy with some sort of last message you could leave to the recipients of your organs, notifying them of your lifestyle and the benefits of being veg/vegan, and asking them to make better choices out of respect for you saving their lives. That ought to be enough to change a few people's minds.
Btw, I'm really cringing at the thought of guests to this forum reading the title of this thread alone, it would be enough to turn me away if I was just visiting for the first time.
I respect people's right to choose not to donate their organs, but I can't possibly comprehend why they wouldn't.
Well, even before going veg I was unsure of being an organ donor or not because of my beliefs.
I'm not religious - I consider myself a spiritual atheist. I believe in evolution, souls, spirits and reincarnation - and that cutting a body to pieces can cause the soul to be restless or lost.
Maybe it sounds crazy to others, but that's my beliefs.
