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- Kitty Freak - - Kitty Freak - SA Posts: 1070
1 5 Sep 2009
Do you guys know how many more lives you save per year as a vegan, rather than just a vegetarian? Ive been thinking about it for awhile..Can anyone shed some light on this for me please? happy

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Matt- Matt- VIC Posts: 1564
2 5 Sep 2009
Ok, lemme think (keep in mind I stopped doing maths a year ago!)

First for DAIRY:

So, on average, a cow produces 8,375 litres of milk a year. Let's also say a cow needs to give birth to 1 calf a year (not sure if this '1 calf a year' is correct -- however, I shall base all the following on this tongue )

On average, a human would consume maybe a litre of milk a week? So we can say 52 litres of milk a year.

So, 8375/ 52 = 161

This means it takes 161 years of living to save 1 bobby calf. Obviously we're not alive for that long, rather half of that. Therefore we can say we save 0.5 bobby calves in our lifetime.
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NOW for EGGS:

The average battery hen lives for 1 year, laying 300 eggs in a lifetime. A person will probably only eat 4 eggs a week at MOST (15,600 eggs in a lifetime). It would therefore take the lives of approx 52 chickens to produce all these eggs.
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GRAND TOTAL*:

0.5 bobby calves + 52 laying hens = 52.5

52.5 / 75 (avg life expectancy) = 0.7

According to my maths (which may be completely wrong!!!), the average vegan saves an extra 0.7 lives a year.
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*I haven't included things like cheese, leather etc. Therefore, I think we can probably round it up to 1 whole life a year.
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The average vegan saves 1 more life a year than a vegetarian.
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Matt- Matt- VIC Posts: 1564
3 5 Sep 2009
God, I need something better to do on Saturdays.

Anyway, while it's nice to know vegans save an extra 1 life a year, veganism to me is much more of a statement than the number of lives saved; the statement that I'm choosing not to be a part of the exploitation of animals.
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Mel Mel NSW Posts: 289
4 5 Sep 2009
Matt.Y said:
Ok, lemme think (keep in mind I stopped doing maths a year ago!)

First for DAIRY:

So, on average, a cow produces 8,375 litres of milk a year. Let's also say a cow needs to give birth to 1 calf a year (not sure if this '1 calf a year' is correct -- however, I shall base all the following on this tongue )

On average, a human would consume maybe a litre of milk a week? So we can say 52 litres of milk a year.

So, 8375/ 52 = 161

This means it takes 161 years of living to save 1 bobby calf. Obviously we're not alive for that long, rather half of that. Therefore we can say we save 0.5 bobby calves in our lifetime.
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NOW for EGGS:

The average battery hen lives for 1 year, laying 300 eggs in a lifetime. A person will probably only eat 4 eggs a week at MOST (15,600 eggs in a lifetime). It would therefore take the lives of approx 52 chickens to produce all these eggs.
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GRAND TOTAL*:

0.5 bobby calves + 52 laying hens = 52.5

52.5 / 75 (avg life expectancy) = 0.7

According to my maths (which may be completely wrong!!!), the average vegan saves an extra 0.7 lives a year.
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*I haven't included things like cheese, leather etc. Therefore, I think we can probably round it up to 1 whole life a year.
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The average vegan saves 1 more life a year than a vegetarian.
the omnis I know have about 3 litres of milk a week and some of them eat 2 eggs every day.
So if they convert they'd be saving more?
I think cows have a gestation of 9 months like us.
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Mel Mel NSW Posts: 289
5 5 Sep 2009
if you use my friends as the basis of how much dairy and eggs consumed by people:

a human would consume maybe a 3 litres of milk a week; So we can say 156 litres of milk a year.

So, 8375/ 156= 53.6

This means it takes 53.6 years of living to save 1 bobby calf. Therefore we can say they save approx. 1.5 bobbies in a lifetime.
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NOW for EGGS:

The average battery hen lives for 1 year, laying 300 eggs in a lifetime. A person will about 12 eggs a week; 46,800 eggs in a lifetime (holy crap, their cholestrol is going to kill them). It would therefore take the lives of approx 156 chickens to produce all these eggs.
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GRAND TOTAL*:

1.5 bobby calves + 156 laying hens = 157.5

157.5 / 75 (avg life expectancy) = 2.1 lives a year

*I haven't included things like cheese, leather, additives, honey etc.
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But you're right not that it matters as much. Being a vegan is a statement. I was interested to know how many more lives with the data from my friends eating habits.

I think there would be a whole lot of bees dying from their honey being taken too.
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Lea Lea WA Posts: 82
6 5 Sep 2009
That is some serious maths right there Matt.Y
I thought vegans saved more lives per year but then again even if its only one then thats like 80 in your lifetime. Pretty awesome!
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Vegan Zombie. Vegan Zombie. SA Posts: 130
7 5 Sep 2009
Matt.Y said:
Ok, lemme think (keep in mind I stopped doing maths a year ago!)

First for DAIRY:

So, on average, a cow produces 8,375 litres of milk a year. Let's also say a cow needs to give birth to 1 calf a year (not sure if this '1 calf a year' is correct -- however, I shall base all the following on this tongue )

On average, a human would consume maybe a litre of milk a week? So we can say 52 litres of milk a year.

So, 8375/ 52 = 161

This means it takes 161 years of living to save 1 bobby calf. Obviously we're not alive for that long, rather half of that. Therefore we can say we save 0.5 bobby calves in our lifetime.
________________________________________________________________________

NOW for EGGS:

The average battery hen lives for 1 year, laying 300 eggs in a lifetime. A person will probably only eat 4 eggs a week at MOST (15,600 eggs in a lifetime). It would therefore take the lives of approx 52 chickens to produce all these eggs.
________________________________________________________________________

GRAND TOTAL*:

0.5 bobby calves + 52 laying hens = 52.5

52.5 / 75 (avg life expectancy) = 0.7

According to my maths (which may be completely wrong!!!), the average vegan saves an extra 0.7 lives a year.
________________________________________________________________________

*I haven't included things like cheese, leather etc. Therefore, I think we can probably round it up to 1 whole life a year.
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The average vegan saves 1 more life a year than a vegetarian.
That made my head hurt.. O.o
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- Kitty Freak - - Kitty Freak - SA Posts: 1070
8 5 Sep 2009
Matt.Y said:
Ok, lemme think (keep in mind I stopped doing maths a year ago!)

First for DAIRY:

So, on average, a cow produces 8,375 litres of milk a year. Let's also say a cow needs to give birth to 1 calf a year (not sure if this '1 calf a year' is correct -- however, I shall base all the following on this tongue )

On average, a human would consume maybe a litre of milk a week? So we can say 52 litres of milk a year.

So, 8375/ 52 = 161

This means it takes 161 years of living to save 1 bobby calf. Obviously we're not alive for that long, rather half of that. Therefore we can say we save 0.5 bobby calves in our lifetime.
________________________________________________________________________

NOW for EGGS:

The average battery hen lives for 1 year, laying 300 eggs in a lifetime. A person will probably only eat 4 eggs a week at MOST (15,600 eggs in a lifetime). It would therefore take the lives of approx 52 chickens to produce all these eggs.
________________________________________________________________________

GRAND TOTAL*:

0.5 bobby calves + 52 laying hens = 52.5

52.5 / 75 (avg life expectancy) = 0.7

According to my maths (which may be completely wrong!!!), the average vegan saves an extra 0.7 lives a year.
________________________________________________________________________

*I haven't included things like cheese, leather etc. Therefore, I think we can probably round it up to 1 whole life a year.
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The average vegan saves 1 more life a year than a vegetarian.
thank you for the maths! tongue

but myself and my family as well as friends i know all used to (or still do) drunk/drink more than 1 litre a week, i used to drink heaps..
I think it would be more than one life a year if we include everything, and i guess its all down to the individual as well..

but yes i agree, its the statement, not the numbers.
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Francis Francis VIC Posts: 286
9 5 Sep 2009
Where the hell did you get these stats from!?
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Francis Francis VIC Posts: 286
10 5 Sep 2009
Also, it's not just death we ought to worry about.
There are convincing arguments that say there is more suffering in a carton of milk than in a plate of flesh.
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