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Private ownership of firearms

what are your thoughts?

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Sebastian Sebastian VIC Posts: 137
31 18 Apr 2011
psychokitten said:
Sebastian said:
Kirrilly said:
psychokitten said:
Sebastian said:
Well I admit that Howard did have to make some reforms, I don't want us to be like America. I wouldn't leave my house with out a gun over their. Anyway.
Have you been? I've never once felt unsafe, I'm against violence and wouldn't even have it in me to physically defend myself. My husband is a process server (giving people papers to say they're being sued) and about 50% of the people he delivers to are complete white-trash and legally allowed to shoot him on sight... Know how many times he's been shot at? None. Ever.
I'm planning to move there and raise children without any safety fears at all.
You have to have a license to carry a concealed weapon, most people (in Wyoming anyway) are really good about it.
Yeah, I don't think you can really make judgments about a country without having experienced it first hand. I can't imagine the bizarre assumptions other countries make about us, doesn't mean they're true.
Facts are facts. Plus I have talked to many Americans who also would not leave their house with out a gun
I don't know any that feel like that cannot leave the house without a gun.
I know two Americans that do carry weapons. Two. Out of the 100 or so friends I've made.
One of the guys that I met who was armed said that when he was carrying a weapon he would purposely avoid places like bars etc where situations might escalate to the point where he might feel the need to defend himself, he had a reall great outlook about it and it put me at ease. That guy? Now a cop.
The other one? Security guard.

I don't know where your friends are, or what kind of people they associate with, but I've got friends all over CA, WY, OH, GA, TX, NY, RI, IL...
None of them are worried either...
well I suppose the people, that I have talked to/ family know are what you would classify as red necks
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psychokitten psychokitten QLD Posts: 340
32 18 Apr 2011
Maggie said:
Sebastian said:
psychokitten said:
I work in security, all of our road crew are armed, as well as some internal staff. I work with guns everyday, most of the boys own weapons.
I don't have a problem with people owning weapons, providing they can meet the license requirements.
Most of the boys just enjoy going out to the range and firing off a few rounds. Some of them hunt wild pigs though. As much as they're considered a "pest" I don't agree, but I'm not in a position to stop them.
I can't see how wild pigs arn't pests, but that not what this topic is about.
I think she means that she doesn't agree with them being killed.
Right, I don't agree with them hunting them. Whether they're a pest or not is not up to me, I've never had any problem with the pigs myself but I don't live in the areas they go shooting.
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TheSixthStitch TheSixthStitch Aruba Posts: 988
33 18 Apr 2011
Sebastian said:
TheSixthStitch said:
Both are valid assertions
A quick question, A native specie is in peril, namely because of another introduced species, yet a lot of people on this site think that they shouldn't be shot because it is our fault they got here in the first place. And said introduced animals shouldn't suffer because of our mistakes.

Should the native animals suffer because of our mistakes and inaction?l
Offtopic, but briefly...

This has been a big problem of a question for me, because deep down, both views are just as valid. On one hand you have an argument for eliminating introduced species based on origin discrimination, and on the other you have an argument for culpability. Either way some animal is going to lose out.

But when you dig deeper you have to ask, when does it mean when we say "natural" or "native." When does an introduced species become considered a part of the natural environment? Does that occur when the ecosystem is in harmony? Because as far as I know ecosystems and the planet undergoes constant change. Species die out and others flourish. Plant seeds from one continent can be brought over by a migratory bird and poo pooed into the soil of another. Seed germinates and soon you have a flourishing introduced species which knocks out other established species. And so on.  Aren't humans a product of the natural environment, and is not everything we do considered natural?
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psychokitten psychokitten QLD Posts: 340
34 18 Apr 2011
Sebastian said:
psychokitten said:
Sebastian said:
Kirrilly said:
psychokitten said:
Sebastian said:
Well I admit that Howard did have to make some reforms, I don't want us to be like America. I wouldn't leave my house with out a gun over their. Anyway.
Have you been? I've never once felt unsafe, I'm against violence and wouldn't even have it in me to physically defend myself. My husband is a process server (giving people papers to say they're being sued) and about 50% of the people he delivers to are complete white-trash and legally allowed to shoot him on sight... Know how many times he's been shot at? None. Ever.
I'm planning to move there and raise children without any safety fears at all.
You have to have a license to carry a concealed weapon, most people (in Wyoming anyway) are really good about it.
Yeah, I don't think you can really make judgments about a country without having experienced it first hand. I can't imagine the bizarre assumptions other countries make about us, doesn't mean they're true.
Facts are facts. Plus I have talked to many Americans who also would not leave their house with out a gun
I don't know any that feel like that cannot leave the house without a gun.
I know two Americans that do carry weapons. Two. Out of the 100 or so friends I've made.
One of the guys that I met who was armed said that when he was carrying a weapon he would purposely avoid places like bars etc where situations might escalate to the point where he might feel the need to defend himself, he had a reall great outlook about it and it put me at ease. That guy? Now a cop.
The other one? Security guard.

I don't know where your friends are, or what kind of people they associate with, but I've got friends all over CA, WY, OH, GA, TX, NY, RI, IL...
None of them are worried either...
well I suppose the people, that I have talked to/ family know are what you would classify as red necks
Uhh, I'm moving to WYOMING. That's the home of the rednecks. The whole state is full of hunters. It's where the "bad guys" used to run away to back in the Cowboy days because no one would chase them into the hills/wilderness.

Plus the friends I've got in Chicago, or ones that used to live there, have said before that sometimes they have felt unsafe, never carried a gun though.
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rottweiler rottweiler SA Posts: 1907
35 18 Apr 2011
psychokitten said:
I work in security, all of our road crew are armed, as well as some internal staff. I work with guns everyday, most of the boys own weapons.
I don't have a problem with people owning weapons, providing they can meet the license requirements.
Most of the boys just enjoy going out to the range and firing off a few rounds. Some of them hunt wild pigs though. As much as they're considered a "pest" I don't agree, but I'm not in a position to stop them.
You said in one post, that you were against violence and couldnt even be violent even if to defend yourself.. and your in security?? that makes no sense...
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Sebastian Sebastian VIC Posts: 137
36 18 Apr 2011
TheSixthStitch said:
Sebastian said:
TheSixthStitch said:
Both are valid assertions
A quick question, A native specie is in peril, namely because of another introduced species, yet a lot of people on this site think that they shouldn't be shot because it is our fault they got here in the first place. And said introduced animals shouldn't suffer because of our mistakes.

Should the native animals suffer because of our mistakes and inaction?l
Offtopic, but briefly...

This has been a big problem of a question for me, because deep down, both views are just as valid. On one hand you have an argument for eliminating introduced species based on origin discrimination, and on the other you have an argument for culpability. Either way some animal is going to lose out.

But when you dig deeper you have to ask, when does it mean when we say "natural" or "native." When does an introduced species become considered a part of the natural environment? Does that occur when the ecosystem is in harmony? Because as far as I know ecosystems and the planet undergoes constant change. Species die out and others flourish. Plant seeds from one continent can be brought over by a migratory bird and poo pooed into the soil of another. Seed germinates and soon you have a flourishing introduced species which knocks out other established species. And so on.  Aren't humans a product of the natural environment, and is not everything we do considered natural?
It means one species is going to be lost to the world for ever and another destructive one is going to take it's place. Thats very sad in my opinion
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psychokitten psychokitten QLD Posts: 340
37 18 Apr 2011
rottweiler said:
psychokitten said:
I work in security, all of our road crew are armed, as well as some internal staff. I work with guns everyday, most of the boys own weapons.
I don't have a problem with people owning weapons, providing they can meet the license requirements.
Most of the boys just enjoy going out to the range and firing off a few rounds. Some of them hunt wild pigs though. As much as they're considered a "pest" I don't agree, but I'm not in a position to stop them.
You said in one post, that you were against violence and couldnt even be violent even if to defend yourself.. and your in security?? that makes no sense...
I actually work for a cash in transit company and I'm the one who runs Admin, making sure we get paid.
Even security guards need someone to answer the phone.
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rottweiler rottweiler SA Posts: 1907
38 18 Apr 2011
psychokitten said:
rottweiler said:
psychokitten said:
I work in security, all of our road crew are armed, as well as some internal staff. I work with guns everyday, most of the boys own weapons.
I don't have a problem with people owning weapons, providing they can meet the license requirements.
Most of the boys just enjoy going out to the range and firing off a few rounds. Some of them hunt wild pigs though. As much as they're considered a "pest" I don't agree, but I'm not in a position to stop them.
You said in one post, that you were against violence and couldnt even be violent even if to defend yourself.. and your in security?? that makes no sense...
I actually work for a cash in transit company and I'm the one who runs Admin, making sure we get paid.
Even security guards need someone to answer the phone.
Ohh okay, makes sense.. I was thinking it mustve been some sort of office thing for the security place.. My dad used to be a security guard -rip.. And i used to go to work with him sometimes, and it's definately not a job that you can be afraid of defending yourself o.O
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TheSixthStitch TheSixthStitch Aruba Posts: 988
39 18 Apr 2011
Sebastian said:
It means one species is going to be lost to the world for ever and another destructive one is going to take it's place. Thats very sad in my opinion
It IS sad, and the pretty much sums the history of life thus far. Species WILL go extinct one way or another. I suspect the same will apply to us somewhere down the track.

Does that mean we should do nothing and let dominant species cause the extinction of another? Or should we take the conservationist approach and eliminate introduced species to allow existing species to flourish? What are the ramifications and possibly unseen ramifications, for both views and outcomes? I don't know.

I do know that taking life should not be treated lightly.
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Catyren Catyren WA Posts: 542
40 18 Apr 2011
i think private ownership of firearms should be banned the world over. They should be unnecessary.
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