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omg i hate centrelink! agreed?

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Lars Lars NSW Posts: 825
71 21 Apr 2011
xMISSMONSTERx said:
wild child2 said:
xMISSMONSTERx said:
wild child2 said:
Here you go Lars, here's one for you to renovate with heaps of room for animals! happy

http://www.realestate.com.au/property-house-qld-maryborough-107314118
The outside needs a paint and then it would look like my dream home! no renovation necessary tongue
what colour would you paint it? I volunteer to help!

You would have to plant a mulberry tree too if it doesn't already have one happy
and sun flowers you must plant sunflowers!
I'm a fan of heritage colours, or even purples would look nice!

Yeah, I'd do up the gardens, nothing nicer than relaxing in your own beautiful gardens happy
Mulberry would be a nice colour plus the birds who eat the berries from your mulberry tree won't stain the house
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...2 ...2 WA Posts: 2307
72 21 Apr 2011
TheSixthStitch said:
It's such a shame that centrelink has such a a prevailing stigma. I partially blame 'quality' media outlets for inflammatory and provocative reporting.

The point of centrelink is to compensate for the inequalities in our society that are difficult at this point in time to remedy. Inequalities that exist are poverty brought about by free-market failures, cultural and racial prejudice, gender prejudice, for example.

Centrelink is a collaboration of taxpayers money (not just existing tax-payers, this applies to past and future tax-payers) whose purpose is to act in the spirit of charity, compassion, and duty of care to all citizens so that we all have a 'fair go'.

It should never be seen as a life-time provision nor as an absolute entitlement. It is based on the principle of us helping out one another. Recipients of Centrelink payments should know or be aware that somewhere down the track they need to , or should at least, repay society. This doesn't have to be in the form of money.

It is a shame that there are a very, very small minority that exploit this arrangement and sully the good faith in which Centrelink is supposed to operate under. Most people receive benefits temporarily and for most part do not take advantage of the system, though at the time it is easy for some to take it for granted. I wish this was stressed more to the general public rather than have Today Tonight perpetuate denigrating labels such as 'dole-bludger'.  

I've been on Newstart on and off and I have been a recipient of Austudy for quiet some time. I have worked prior to these provisions and I intend to work again after my study has concluded. With my study comes an increase in qualifications which will better my chances for getting a higher paid job (and hopefully one that I want to do and enjoy).  An increase in income will also mean an increase in the taxable income tax bracket - which means I'll be paying more taxes. More taxes means more money into Centrelink tongue            

The difficulty with Centrelink is that people often look at who is getting what and why so. I'm sure that if you've been working 10 hour shifts a day for a paltry income and then see someone receive a marginally lower sum of money for doing nothing but study, you'd feel slightly put out.

I fully understand and appreciate the difficulty in trying to balance Centrelink provisions with income disparities between jobs of varying skill. It's all too easy to forget why we have Centrelink when all we see is money being handed out to someone else while you sacrifice your time and leisure to earn your way through life.
Well said. I pretty much agree with all of this.
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xMISSMONSTERx xMISSMONSTERx WA Posts: 2582
73 21 Apr 2011
Lars said:
xMISSMONSTERx said:
wild child2 said:
xMISSMONSTERx said:
wild child2 said:
Here you go Lars, here's one for you to renovate with heaps of room for animals! happy

http://www.realestate.com.au/property-house-qld-maryborough-107314118
The outside needs a paint and then it would look like my dream home! no renovation necessary tongue
what colour would you paint it? I volunteer to help!

You would have to plant a mulberry tree too if it doesn't already have one happy
and sun flowers you must plant sunflowers!
I'm a fan of heritage colours, or even purples would look nice!

Yeah, I'd do up the gardens, nothing nicer than relaxing in your own beautiful gardens happy
Mulberry would be a nice colour plus the birds who eat the berries from your mulberry tree won't stain the house
Birds can stay away from my mulberries, they're for meeee!
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wild child2 wild child2 QLD Posts: 2638
74 21 Apr 2011
xMISSMONSTERx said:
Lars said:
xMISSMONSTERx said:
wild child2 said:
xMISSMONSTERx said:
wild child2 said:
Here you go Lars, here's one for you to renovate with heaps of room for animals! happy

http://www.realestate.com.au/property-house-qld-maryborough-107314118
The outside needs a paint and then it would look like my dream home! no renovation necessary tongue
what colour would you paint it? I volunteer to help!

You would have to plant a mulberry tree too if it doesn't already have one happy
and sun flowers you must plant sunflowers!
I'm a fan of heritage colours, or even purples would look nice!

Yeah, I'd do up the gardens, nothing nicer than relaxing in your own beautiful gardens happy
Mulberry would be a nice colour plus the birds who eat the berries from your mulberry tree won't stain the house
Birds can stay away from my mulberries, they're for meeee!
No you gotta share happy they don't eat much, we have a huge mulberry tree and a yellow house and I am safe to say that I have never had mulberry stains on my house or washing!!! My chooks gets them on their butts that time of year though, they look like crazy killer chooks with red stains all over their faces happy
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Contreras Contreras NSW Posts: 349
75 21 Apr 2011
EJay said:
You know, I started to write a list of all the ways that my part-time jobs in retail and hospitality have helped me in my (totally unrelated to either retail or hospitality) career.  But, then I realised that I clearly, after a First-Class BA(Hons), and an MA with High Distinction and being half-way though a PhD, don't know enough about 'higher academic learning' to comment.

To be very clear: I think it's perfectly fine to either have a job or not have a job and claim youth allowance or not claim youth allowance while studying.  I did both, and that worked for me.  And I still got very good grades.  And, I know people who could not have achieved the grades they got if they had worked (or worked more).

Thus - it's perfectly legitimate to say: 'I don't have a job because I know that I personally wouldn't be able to achieve the grades I want to if I had the extra responsibility of having a part/full time or casual job.'
It's NOT legitimate to say: 'People who work clearly don't understand what's involved in higher education.' or 'People who work clearly don't put enough effort/time into their study.' or 'I don't have a job because it's pointless and won't help my future career' (that's a MASSIVE cop out...)
I think your misunderstanding my comments, I said someone who thinks others on centerlink at Uni are lazy don't know enough about academic learning(Seb said this). I also used the keywords I and my to reflect that in my career I don't think it's worthwhile which is my opinion and you can't make the assumption it will help, since your not in my situation or career and then it's your opinion which is just as valid as mine. I again was talking about my situation alone and the point of it was to say to Seb that the reason I don't have a part-time job isn't because i was lazy, i was talking about my experiences alone in response to Seb's statement.
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4_da_animals1 4_da_animals1 SA Posts: 3293
76 21 Apr 2011
Because someones studying full time at a university and needing a bit of extra help to feed themselves every night is a dol bludger who needs to get off their ass.....
Same for me, who has recently moved out of home due to home being unlivable for me, looking for work but needs something in the mean time, maybe I should starve!
(sarchasm radar)


The only problem I have is with the people who claim they are looking for a job to get centerlink payments, and once a month have a brief look on a site, but aren't actually trying  because they are doing the minimum to get the money.
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ckimana ckimana NSW Posts: 2545
77 21 Apr 2011
Yvan said:
I don't want to waste my time on a part time job for terrible money when centrelink can provide me enough to live on while studying (i use the word waste because the majority of retail jobs won't help me in my future career). Plus I doubt my gpa would be as high if I juggled a job with Uni, I have no reason to. If someone thinks it's lazy not to put more stress while studying, you obviously don't know enough about higher academic learning.
Totally understand what you're saying.

However, other peeps may find that working in a non-related job appeals to potential employees as you are learning other traits such as responsibility, team work, leadership, customer service skills to name a few.
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Contreras Contreras NSW Posts: 349
78 21 Apr 2011
ckimana said:
Yvan said:
I don't want to waste my time on a part time job for terrible money when centrelink can provide me enough to live on while studying (i use the word waste because the majority of retail jobs won't help me in my future career). Plus I doubt my gpa would be as high if I juggled a job with Uni, I have no reason to. If someone thinks it's lazy not to put more stress while studying, you obviously don't know enough about higher academic learning.
Totally understand what you're saying.

However, other peeps may find that working in a non-related job appeals to potential employees as you are learning other traits such as responsibility, team work, leadership, customer service skills to name a few.
I agree that it may be beneficial in some situations but i tried to make it clear that I believe in my situation, I am better off not spending my time on an unrelated part time job. I also said i have been looking for ones in my particular career but i would only take a job that's going to further reinforce my skills from University. The whole point of my post was responding to Seb that there are plenty of reasons to be on youth allowance other then being "lazy", not to debate whether different career sections tie in with each other which again is situational.
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xMISSMONSTERx xMISSMONSTERx WA Posts: 2582
79 21 Apr 2011
ckimana said:
Yvan said:
I don't want to waste my time on a part time job for terrible money when centrelink can provide me enough to live on while studying (i use the word waste because the majority of retail jobs won't help me in my future career). Plus I doubt my gpa would be as high if I juggled a job with Uni, I have no reason to. If someone thinks it's lazy not to put more stress while studying, you obviously don't know enough about higher academic learning.
Totally understand what you're saying.

However, other peeps may find that working in a non-related job appeals to potential employees as you are learning other traits such as responsibility, team work, leadership, customer service skills to name a few.
Just to add to this, what starts out as a part time job COULD end up as a career.
The more experience you have in different areas the better when you're younger, as it will give you a better idea of what you would like to do when you're older.
For example, in my short time working I have worked in: Retail, Conservation, Information Technology Services, Hospitality just to name a few. It's helped me narrow down what I want to pursue career wise. (NOT RETAIL, NEVER RETAIL)


Not having a stab at anyone, before they think that.
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Contreras Contreras NSW Posts: 349
80 21 Apr 2011
I think we are getting way off topic now lol. Back on topic again, i find centrelink very helpful and provides more opportunities for low income families to reach higher education(that and HECS). Other then that i have nothing but good things to say about my experience with them.
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