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Kirrilly Kirrilly VIC Posts: 2092
31 20 Jun 2011
Kick said:
rottweiler said:
You can accidently be edge by, not one day saying "okay, im going to be straight edge" .. and just giving things up.. i stopped smoking, so along with that i stopped drinking.. i previously stopped doing drugs, so it was an accident that i stopped doing everything i used to.. it wasn't a concious decision that i said- not doing it. it just happened.. which is an accident
just like.. "ooh, im accidently pregnant" or "i was in a car accident"
... because you didnt INTENTIONALLY do it
No.. Its not really like that at all.
Is there some sort of initiation ceremony? A cleansing ritual?
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meh meh NSW Posts: 2674
32 20 Jun 2011
Kick said:
I don't get how vegans of all people, are talking about how essentially its where you draw the line in a negative context. Irony? Also, the connection is quite clear to me. You cannot respect anyone or anything else without respecting yourself first and are you really respecting yourself when you're posting your binge drinking photos all over facebook? Its like if you firmly believed in veganism you wouldn't occasionally 'indulge' yourself at Maccas..

Come on people, eliminating the consumption of sugar? That just screams the carnist 'Well, you're not making a difference anyway!' to me.

But I certainly agree that if you ever "break" than you never truly were. You can't also be "accidentally" edge. That's like almost wanting and clinging to labels. Haha if you hadn't even heard the term before this don't go around telling people that you're edge!
When I mentioned sugar and fats I was essentially talking about how you can still over indulge in things that are harmful to your body, I don't think anyone was suggesting eliminating sugar completely.

I think you can be accidentally edge. Seriously, this whole 'elitist' way of thinking is silly.
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Kick Kick VIC Posts: 540
33 20 Jun 2011
Kirrilly said:
Kick said:
I don't get how vegans of all people, are talking about how essentially its where you draw the line in a negative context. Irony? Also, there connection is quite clear to me. You cannot respect anyone or anything else without respecting yourself first and are you really respecting yourself when you're posting your binge drinking photos all over facebook? Its like if you firmly believed in veganism you wouldn't occasionally 'indulge' yourself at Maccas..

Come on people, eliminating the consumption of sugar? That just screams the carnist 'Well, you're not making a difference anyway!' to me.

But I certainly agree that if you ever "break" than you never truly were. You can't also be "accidentally" edge. That's like almost wanting and clinging to labels. Haha if you hadn't even heard the term before this don't go around telling people that you're edge!
This is sort of exhibit a. I've had this conversation so many times and people seem to imply with drugs or alcohol it's "too much or nothing". There is an in-between. Are you telling me you never have junk food or put your body into situations were it could be harmed or damaged, even a little?
Yeah, I have as we all have but, what you're trying to do is exactly what meat eaters try to in 'tripping' something up. Why try and break down something that annoys you?

What kind of situation would I put myself in that my body could be harmed in? If you mean driving a car and eating home cooked meals with 'fats & oils', then yes. If you're referring to unprotected sex or anything like that, then no.
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rottweiler rottweiler SA Posts: 1907
34 20 Jun 2011
Kirrilly said:
Kick said:
rottweiler said:
You can accidently be edge by, not one day saying "okay, im going to be straight edge" .. and just giving things up.. i stopped smoking, so along with that i stopped drinking.. i previously stopped doing drugs, so it was an accident that i stopped doing everything i used to.. it wasn't a concious decision that i said- not doing it. it just happened.. which is an accident
just like.. "ooh, im accidently pregnant" or "i was in a car accident"
... because you didnt INTENTIONALLY do it
No.. Its not really like that at all.
Is there some sort of initiation ceremony? A cleansing ritual?
I don't see the difference. I didn't stop drinking and what not because i wanted to be pure, or because I wanted to be straight edge. I just did it. And that, is exactly how you can ACCIDENTLY be 'straight edge'
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xMISSMONSTERx xMISSMONSTERx WA Posts: 2582
35 20 Jun 2011
Kirrilly said:
This is sort of exhibit a. I've had this conversation so many times and people seem to imply with drugs or alcohol it's "too much or nothing". There is an in-between. Are you telling me you never have junk food or put your body into situations were it could be harmed or damaged, even a little?
where is the inbetween with drugs?
It's, high as a kite, or dead.
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Kirrilly Kirrilly VIC Posts: 2092
36 20 Jun 2011
xMISSMONSTERx said:
Kirrilly said:
This is sort of exhibit a. I've had this conversation so many times and people seem to imply with drugs or alcohol it's "too much or nothing". There is an in-between. Are you telling me you never have junk food or put your body into situations were it could be harmed or damaged, even a little?
where is the inbetween with drugs?
It's, high as a kite, or dead.
?? huh
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xMISSMONSTERx xMISSMONSTERx WA Posts: 2582
37 20 Jun 2011
Kirrilly said:
xMISSMONSTERx said:
Kirrilly said:
This is sort of exhibit a. I've had this conversation so many times and people seem to imply with drugs or alcohol it's "too much or nothing". There is an in-between. Are you telling me you never have junk food or put your body into situations were it could be harmed or damaged, even a little?
where is the inbetween with drugs?
It's, high as a kite, or dead.
?? huh
i was stating with drugs it really is all or nothing.
there's no such thing as 'half baked'
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meh meh NSW Posts: 2674
38 20 Jun 2011
And I don't agree with the animosity towards ex-veg*ans. If someone wants to stop being veg that's fine by me. Veg*nism is not an elitist club and we shouldn't judge or condemn those who 'want out'. Perhaps those who stop being veg were the ones who were more into the health benefits than animal welfare. I personally prefer veg*ans 'in our club' to be the ones who are into ending animal cruelty rather than those who want to lose a few kilos.
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meh meh NSW Posts: 2674
39 20 Jun 2011
Do you 'disown' people that have been drugged or raped? Being drugged; does that count as 'half-baked'?
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Kirrilly Kirrilly VIC Posts: 2092
40 20 Jun 2011
xMISSMONSTERx said:
Kirrilly said:
xMISSMONSTERx said:
Kirrilly said:
This is sort of exhibit a. I've had this conversation so many times and people seem to imply with drugs or alcohol it's "too much or nothing". There is an in-between. Are you telling me you never have junk food or put your body into situations were it could be harmed or damaged, even a little?
where is the inbetween with drugs?
It's, high as a kite, or dead.
?? huh
i was stating with drugs it really is all or nothing.
there's no such thing as 'half baked'
Yeah.. there is.
There's a point where it crosses a line, and that's different for each person. A responsible person knows his/her limits. They may occasionally go over that, but we're humans. I refuse to accept the only people who respect their bodies are "edgers". I need to repeat I have no problem with the lifestyle, it's the culture I find ridiculous.
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