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Whats wrong with greyhound racing?

Like, seriously

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Casper.s2 Casper.s2 SA Posts: 1640
51 23 Jul 2012
yeah, a sport is as moral as its' audience, followers, organizers, breeders and investors.

if greyhound racing is wrong, or immoral, it isn't because a dog is running around a track chasing speed...

people might forget why the lure is shaped like a hare

to argue it is cruel to race dogs, is saying it is cruel to have so many cars on the road... but with disasters things improve.. mostly fear of liabilities or .. rather  haha the lottery  wheel of responsibility gaining too may heads of 'soh ciety' ... and some start seeing the motorized pointer pushed by people power slowing from the momentum of blind confidence in ignorance.

anyway..  the argument would be then they shouldn't be on a track, but a farm, chomping into the nerves of animals made feral by our folly.. or that time travel should be invented so every animal can be home in the wild and natural.

I don't know if it is crueler to have a dog running in a feeble and probably unhealthy manner (race policies aren't an exact science, but are strict none the less). Or kept in a wide open sociable and friendly environment, but with dominant traits bred out or hunting trained out of their nature.

So the answer to your question if there is a wrong... then it would be the Owners.. and if the Owners find the sport restricts them to their actions, then the sport should adapt to be more suitable to the animals rights. By collective owner's advice as they are the closest people to the doggies.

Systems which are probably in place but fallen prey to rhetoricians/profiteers (as apposed to gamblers who are the prize).

But I guess the right ethos is what needs to be bred, as none of this is what attracts the fanatics and these aren't the piques of addiction, or interest. Nor are these substances going to engage the parts of the brain which has become the cope.

So for people like "you (whom) are the reason why my sport is being scrutinized by every-day-people who bother my conscience about their qualms" prejudicated  ... the only answer is to abolish the sport as malpractice.

Maybe those infamous villains are more cynical than me about the spirit of human beings, strangers and people at large. Maybe I am just optimistic to think the expressions of love and compassion (which come across as justifications to most) are true... and if there truly was an improvement to be made, they would happily take it on and make it happen.
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Miss. Jones Miss. Jones VIC Posts: 242
52 24 Jul 2012
Kunnigan said:
Shavvy said:
Also the pure fact that she said "When my dogs can no longer run I find good homes for them" Suggest it is alllll business, no real love of the animal.
Its not business, its fun, and for the love of the dog. If I can't find a suitable home, I hold onto that dog for a while. and if I can;t, it either stays with me, or is HUMANELY EUTHANISED!
So no-one is having a go at you personally, you sound like you are a loving owner.

However there are people who are not humane, so vegans boycott industries that encourage any cruelty to animals at all. We shouldn't be breeding animals for a specific thing. That controlling another living being is sick in itself, it is a awkward deriviative of "Hitler" ideals.  Its not our right, humans have no rights when it comes to animals, they have entitlements to live and be free in the world as we do. (well we don't really but we can give animals their freedom at least). By involving yourself you are encouraging an industry that is cruel and twisted.  

I have a problem with people thinking they have a right to make money off animals.  It is as bad as pimping oneself & forcing the innocent into prostitution.

PS... There is nothing humane about euthanising anything unless it is terminally ill.


peace
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Tegeran Tegeran VIC Posts: 25
53 24 Jul 2012
My aunt used to (and i think still does) breed and race greyhounds.
I'm not sure how it is at other breeders/race kennels, but at my aunts it went like this:
Bitch whelps her pups, is able to raise them in a large area, until they're old enough to begin training.
The pups get moved to another pen, where it is just them.
AS "teenagers" the pups get separated (by age) and put into runs. Each run is around 50m long, and about 1m wide. The dogs constantly run up and down the pens each day, especially when there are people outside. The animals would be fed by meat carcasses  being thrown over the fence, and daily dinner. However, they would be fed from the same bowl, so there is a chance not all the dogs got the appropriate amount of food.
From there, the dogs would be taking to the track to compete in a few trials to see if they're worthy of being moved into the actual kennels and raced.
Those that weren't... lets just say there was a big pit on my aunt's property...

The "lucky ones" who made it to the kennels were kept in cages. About 4mx3m big (approx). Their beds were generally a raised wooden platform, with a few hessian bags/old blankets for comfort. They were let out into the yard to relieve themselves a few times a day, and were sprayed with water if they went in their pens.
They were fed a mixture of fresh meat, and added vitamins, and probably steroids and whatever else to help make the dog faster on the track, and have 2 pieces of toast for breakfast each.
They would be put on the walking machine for around an hour or so at a time every couple of days.

Back when i was a kid, i would LOVE going to my aunts to visit the greyhounds and help her and her bf out with feeding them, and playing with the pups, as i love animals and adore being around them.
Thinking about this now makes me sick.

Kunningan, I am not sure what your kennels conditions are like, but if they anything like my aunts, then i feel so very sorry for your dogs.
You "love them", but as soon as they no longer bring you in the money or break a leg, they are only worthy of a bullet.

RIP to all the beautiful greyhounds (and every other animals!) that have suffered and have been subject to human entertainment
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4_da_animals1 4_da_animals1 SA Posts: 3293
54 24 Jul 2012
In my opinion there is no such thing as "humane" euthanasia, that is just a way of tricking yourself into thinking it's not really murder, because you believe they "didn't suffer", in the end it's still ending a life.
I understand what you mean about rehoming for the love of the animal, my mum breeds pure bred bullmastiffs and bulldogs, sells them desexed microchipped, all the four miles as you might put it. However there are some we keep, in order to show, socialise, teach others about the breed and occasionally breed themselves. However it gets to the point of too many dogs to effectivly socialise with and treat with TLC we desex and rehome them to a good home. We rehome them because we can no longer give them the tender tlc they deserve and because there are literarily hundreds of people out there hankering for a pure bred, and out of those hundreds, there are a select few who truly deserve one, people who can give the dog one-on-one attention, and pure love for preferably the rest of the dog's life.

However breeding an animal souly for the purpose of racing, regardless of what their life might be like at home, I cannot in any form understand or agree with. That's exploitation at it's worst, and disallowing the animal to carry out their true natural behaviours and the ability to socialise with other animals and people, something all animals, ESPECIALLY dogs need psychologically.

p.s, this is in no way an attack at anyone, just my opinion. peace
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Kelsey1 MsDrago Kelsey1 MsDrago United States Posts: 818
55 29 Jul 2012
They electrocute these dogs through their mouths and anus's and force them to run and they never "retire"!
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OzGreyhoundSales OzGreyhoundSales VIC Posts: 1
56 18 Dec 2012
I am a part of the Industry (indirectly) and I am also an animal lover... (own a labrador) may I ask what it is you propose to do and how exactly you wish to solve the problem apart from talking about it which is great, I agree, but personally I just find too many people especially nowadays sign online petitions because it is easy and then think their work is done...

The reality is that the industry will not go away, not for the foreseeable future anyway... so what is the solution then?

There are too many people here whining and complaining how bad it is, well why dont you put that mental energy into coming up with solutions for the industry as most of the breeders, trainers and owners love their dogs and I am 100% certain that if you offered said breeder/owner the affordable option of doing such and such with his retired or ill dog he would take it.

Bring the industry solutions and I am sure they are more than happy to talk.
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Paws89 Paws89 WA Posts: 29
57 18 Dec 2012
If the dogs could talk, I am pretty sure they would tell us they would much rather spending their time running after a ball and being shonw TLC from their owners, not running around a track after a mechanical "rabbit"

No animal should be put down when it has a life to live... including "retired" greyhounds! There is nothing HUMANE about it and it saddens me that people actually sleep at night thinking this is okay  sad paw
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..1 ..1 TAS Posts: 2265
58 18 Dec 2012
I know so many people who were vet nurses, and every single one says that their clinic would get between 10 and 50 Greyhounds brought in for euthanasia every week! That's a lot of dogs, and that doesn't include the Greys who are killed by their 'owners'. The average age of Greyhounds killed was 2 - past their prime age for racing. That's only in Tasmania, I imagine the numbers in the mainland would be even more horrific.

That is what's wrong with Greyhound racing.
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Theodora Theodora VIC Posts: 47
59 18 Dec 2012
How can you say that ???? Are you mad???
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lololiisha lololiisha NSW Posts: 53
60 18 Dec 2012
Kunnigan said:
- They get to do natural things like raise their own pups, instead of desexing them which is just mean
Desexing your dog is important. Have you not seen street dogs before?
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