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Mean people wear fur Mean people wear fur QLD Posts: 1087
21 17 Jul 2011
Pegs said:
But, how do you know? I'm not trying to pick a fight with you, of course not, but we actually don't know, unless we have researched it thoroughly.
We have researched it. There are many, MANY studies, facts, quotes from experts, etc that prove a Vegan diet is perfectly healthy.

On the whole "loving animals" but eating them thing: If someone is in a position to go veg (eg not in poverty where there is barely anything to eat) but doesn't, I don't think you can call yourself an animal lover. I love my family and my friends, but I don't eat them! I don't support the slaughter of the things I love.
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Pegs Pegs VIC Posts: 1538
22 17 Jul 2011
Mean people wear fur said:
Pegs said:
But, how do you know? I'm not trying to pick a fight with you, of course not, but we actually don't know, unless we have researched it thoroughly.
We have researched it. There are many, MANY studies, facts, quotes from experts, etc that prove a Vegan diet is perfectly healthy.
Ok, then, people can't say they can't because of health problems can they? No, omnivores, you can't!

Ok, then the whole, "But I can't go vegetarian because my parents said so, doesn't mean you ALWAYS accept the dead carcass they give you.

Remember Moo Moo? One of the people that caused all that 'annoyance' a few weeks ago? Well, one time she burst into tears because apparently you guys were being mean and nasty and bullying an 'innocent' 14 year old because she couldn't/wouldn't go vegetarian because her "parents said so'

But then, she talks about that 'animals are supposed to be eaten' and all that crap, and accepts every piece of dead animal anyone offers her. WHAT THE HELL? Your complaining that your parents don't want you to go vegetarian, and then you turn around, eating some gut filled cow intestines, and say "But animals are supposed to be eaten"

Wooo, just wanted to get that off my chest!
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Aimee Aimee VIC Posts: 957
23 17 Jul 2011
Mean people wear fur said:
Pegs said:
But, how do you know? I'm not trying to pick a fight with you, of course not, but we actually don't know, unless we have researched it thoroughly.
We have researched it. There are many, MANY studies, facts, quotes from experts, etc that prove a Vegan diet is perfectly healthy.
It is perfectly healthy to be vegan but you do have to monitor yourself for a while to make sure you're getting the right amount of important things (iron and B12 for example). So while it's not a health risk, different people respond in different ways to diet changes and some find it more work than others. It's all worth it though happy
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Kelsey1 MsDrago Kelsey1 MsDrago United States Posts: 818
24 1 Jan 2013
A puppy mill that exists for the pure welfare of the dogs? I highly doubt it.
Even if dogs did love it there, they are KILLING all the poor homeless animals in shelters!
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Kelsey1 MsDrago Kelsey1 MsDrago United States Posts: 818
25 1 Jan 2013
OinkMoo said:
i must be the cruelst owner in the world, becouse i desexed my st.bernard. and i dont let her breed. she is always happy, cheerful, playful and loved to death BUT becouse i didnt let her have puppys and breed and breed im a horible owner tongue No, but seriously:

A puppy mill is a large-scale commercial dog breeding operation where profit is given priority over the well-being of the dogs. Unlike responsible breeders, who place the utmost importance on producing the healthiest puppies possible, breeding at puppy mills is performed without consideration of genetic quality. This results in generations of dogs with unchecked hereditary defects.

Puppy mill puppies are typically sold to pet shops—usually through a broker, or middleman—and marketed as young as eight weeks of age. The lineage records of puppy mill dogs are often falsified.

What Problems Are Common to Puppy Mill Dogs?
Illness, disease, fearful behavior and lack of socialization with humans and other animals are common characteristics of dogs from puppy mills. Because puppy mill operators fail to apply proper husbandry practices that would remove sick dogs from their breeding pools, puppies from puppy mills are prone to congenital and hereditary conditions. These can include:


•Epilepsy
•Heart disease
•Kidney disease
•Musculoskeletal disorders (hip dysplasia, luxating patellas, etc.)
•Endocrine disorders (diabetes, hyperthyroidism)
•Blood disorders (anemia, Von Willebrand disease)
•Deafness
•Eye problems (cataracts, glaucoma, progressive retinal atrophy, etc.)
•Respiratory disorders
On top of that, puppies often arrive in pet stores—and their new homes—with diseases or infirmities. These can include:

•Giardia
•Parvovirus
•Distemper
•Upper respiratory infections
•Kennel cough
•Pneumonia
•Mange
•Fleas
•Ticks
•Intestinal parasites
•Heartworm
•Chronic diarrhea
How Are Animals Treated at Puppy Mills?
Puppy mills usually house dogs in overcrowded and unsanitary conditions, without adequate veterinary care, food, water and socialization. Puppy mill dogs do not get to experience treats, toys, exercise or basic grooming. To minimize waste cleanup, dogs are often kept in cages with wire flooring that injures their paws and legs—and it is not unusual for cages to be stacked up in columns. Breeder dogs at mills might spend their entire lives outdoors, exposed to the elements—or crammed inside filthy structures where they never get the chance to feel the sun or a gust of fresh air on their faces.

How Often Are Dogs Bred in Puppy Mills?
In order to maximize profits, female dogs are bred at every opportunity with little to no recovery time between litters. When, after a few years, they are physically depleted to the point that they no longer can reproduce, breeding females are often killed. The mom and dad of the puppy in the pet store window are unlikely to make it out of the mill alive—and neither will the many puppies born with overt physical problems that make them unsalable to pet stores.

does that answer your question??
Yea, break out the hard facts.
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Kelsey1 MsDrago Kelsey1 MsDrago United States Posts: 818
26 1 Jan 2013
Kunnigan said:
l bad cause they let their dogs lead a natural life and let them raise puppies.
WHAT? Cages, cramped for days and artificial insemination is freaking natural?
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Theodora Theodora VIC Posts: 47
27 1 Jan 2013
Are you mad?
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Theodora Theodora VIC Posts: 47
28 1 Jan 2013
I totally agree.
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Naomi4animals Naomi4animals VIC Posts: 19
29 1 Jan 2013
i can't stand Puppy Farms i discovered i Puppy shop near me got their puppies from one so i broken in one night took 2 puppies took them to my reg vet... one was soo soo sick they put the poor baby on a drip but could not recover sad but the other one went to a loving home (the vet assistant! ) and is now doing well.
a few months later the shop closed down.all i can remember are ALL  the puppies that were in their breeds in small cages heart breaking they all wanted out
it was in 2007 i have now grown up and regret nothing except wondering what happened to all the other poor puppies D:
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lololiisha lololiisha NSW Posts: 53
30 1 Jan 2013
Kunnigan said:
Well, you know how everyone is like ' Ban puppy farms, blah blah' do they actually talk about puppy farms that actually look after their dogs? No, they don't. They just make everyone feel bad cause they let their dogs lead a natural life and let them raise puppies.
All puppy farms should be banned. Dogs should have the freedom to choose whenever they want their own pups and be able to keep them. It doesn't matter how they are treated, every living thing deserves their own rights and choices, people breeding them is not the dog's choice.
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