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..1 ..1 TAS Posts: 2265
31 10 Sep 2011
Getting back on topic.... Great work, everyone! Looks like it was a great turn out. happy
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Cassie3 Cassie3 QLD Posts: 115
32 10 Sep 2011
As I thought can't write the words for the answers because you and I both know what they would be.  Cheers
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rottweiler rottweiler SA Posts: 1907
33 10 Sep 2011
i'd rather die than have to live off someone elses death.
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Clud Clud VIC Posts: 1559
34 10 Sep 2011
Maybe if people want to talk about other things they should move to another thread, this is meant to be a nice 'yay victory' thread for a speciphic event happy.
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Mean people wear fur Mean people wear fur QLD Posts: 1087
35 10 Sep 2011
Cassie3, I think you need to understand that in a survival situation humans - and non-human animals - will do pretty much anything. Your questions mean nothing. Zilch. Completely useless.
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follz follz NSW Posts: 105
36 10 Sep 2011
rottweiler said:
You say your a realist. But when people say "the worlds not going to turn vegan- we need to do what we can" because many people have said, if we can eliminate as much meat consumption as possible, that's realistic- or try get people to buy from farms, free range and what not. You say there's no point, but that is realistic. Your realistic when you want to be, but when it comes to ACTUALLY being realistic- because the world wont turn vegan, the world wont turn cruelty free.. Any success is good, and tiny little victory should be applauded. Because you seem to think your realistic, but your goals are not.
If you lived when the black slave trade was prevalent, you would be saying the exact same thing. You'd be protesting not to END the trade, but to make things 'better' and more 'humane' for the blacks ie. fewer beatings for the male slaves and less raping of the women slaves. Needless to say, that does not serve to end the enslavement, merely to prolong it because the paradigm that slavery is NOT ok isn't even being challenged.

Same thing goes for people who say 'we must be realistic'. Advocating meatless Mondays, fur-free Tuesdays, cage-free eggs, 'humane' meat/farms, vegetarianism,  etc does NOT serve to challenge the paradigm that animals are not our slaves and that using them for our selfish reaons is wholly unethical. This mentally has seen the birth of the new welfarism where people honestly believe the only way to abolition is through incremental 'welfare' reforms that really only serve to assuage the guilt from the public about using and treating animals as mere property or as mere commodities.

I've asked people who love single-issue campaigns to name me one example in human history of a major injustice or discriminatory movement where welfare reforms actually led to the complete abolition of the practice and thus a complete shift of the paradigm through such reforms. No answer is forthcoming.
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rottweiler rottweiler SA Posts: 1907
37 10 Sep 2011
I'd answer you if any of what you said made sense :S I dont really know why your causing arguments and interrupting conversations with your negativity- with people who are trying for the same thing you are. Just because their going about it differently than you, doesn't mean it's wrong. I think it's awesome what they did. What has something you've done recently done to change anything? Or done to end animal cruelty? I just think your trying to battle people who are trying to help the cause- not make it worse.
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rottweiler rottweiler SA Posts: 1907
38 10 Sep 2011
And did you live when the black slave trade was going on? Cos i dont know what that's got to do with it, and how that is relevant at all.
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OinkMoo OinkMoo NSW Posts: 1340
39 10 Sep 2011
Cassie3 said:
Much of what is written here is an abomination of lies.
could you please tell us what is lies?
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AllyCat AllyCat SA Posts: 497
40 10 Sep 2011
YAY YAY YAY YAY

Good job!! happy
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