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Human omnivore myth

World reknowned cardiologist shatters human omnivore myth in one sentence.

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Gracie Maree Gracie Maree NSW Posts: 88
1 18 Nov 2011
This is a post I found in another forum:

William C. Roberts MD has five decades of experience in the field of cardiology, written over 1300 scientific publications, a dozen cardiology textbooks, and has been editor in chief of the American Journal of Cardiology for a quarter of a century. He is arguably the most highly regarded cardiologist in the world today.

In his 2008 editorial "The Cause of Atherosclerosis", published in the peer reviewed journal Nutrition in Clinical Practice, Roberts states that there is a single, sole cause to heart disease: cholesterol. If your total cholesterol is below 150 and LDL is below 70, you are essentially heart attack proof. What is the cause of high cholesterol? Saturated fat and animal products:

Atherosclerosis is easily produced in nonhuman
herbivores (eg, rabbits, monkeys) by feeding them
a high cholesterol (eg, egg yolks) or high saturated
fat (eg, animal fat) diet… And atherosclerosis was not produced in a
minority of rats fed these diets, it was produced in
100% of the animals! Indeed, atherosclerosis is one
of the easiest diseases to produce experimentally,
but the experimental animal must be an herbivore.
It is not possible to produce atherosclerosis in a
carnivore…"

He elaborates in an earlier editorial:

It is virtually impossible, for example, to produce atherosclerosis in a dog even when 100 grams of cholesterol and 120 grams of butter fat are added to its meat ration. (This amount of cholesterol
is approximately 200 times the average amount that human beings in the USA
eat each day!). (The American Journal of Cardiology, 1990, vol. 66,896.)

He then utterly annihilates the human omnivore myth in a single sentence. here it is:

***Because humans get atherosclerosis, and atherosclerosis
is a disease only of herbivores, humans also must be
herbivores.***

At once the insanity of our times comes into razor sharp relief.

Some may debate whether cholesterol is the sole cause of heart disease. It does not matter, the fact remains that atherosclerosis occurs only in herbivores.

If humans were physiological omnivores, heart disease would not exist, let alone be America's #1 killer for over a hundred years.

It may not be the least bit hyperbolic to say that the existence of heart disease in humans is proof that we, as a species, are vegans.

In any case, a low fat vegan diet has been proven again and again to be the cure for heart disease. A mountain of clinical evidence supports this.

According to Roberts, those who are utterly immune to heart disease without the use of statin drugs are pure vegetarian fruit eaters. His own exact words. fruit eaters.

lividlotus lividlotus NSW Posts: 301
2 18 Nov 2011
I no longer need to face-palm myself.
Would love to see the original article about it if possible happy
Thanks for sharing by the way!
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Gracie Maree Gracie Maree NSW Posts: 88
3 18 Nov 2011
I'm not sure where to find the very original article but here is his "20 questions on atherosclerosis":
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1312295/

=D
He is not a vegan himself, he atleast eats fish, so, as unfortunate it is that there is one more person out there eating animals it is also a positive thing for any vegans out there to have a meat eater on our side =)
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lividlotus lividlotus NSW Posts: 301
4 18 Nov 2011
It's just as effective wink thank you again~
And yes, it makes statements stronger if people can get a viewpoint from 'one of their own', so to speak.
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Glen Glen VIC Posts: 337
5 19 Nov 2011
Gracie Maree said:
Because humans get atherosclerosis, and atherosclerosis is a disease only of herbivores, humans also must be herbivores.
Anyone done any logic? This syllogism is 100% deductively valid. You can't get an argument any more water-tight than this.
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PurpleFae PurpleFae NSW Posts: 283
6 19 Nov 2011
Interesting.

Personally when I get into this topic with anyone, to me it's more of a matter of "are humans capable in the western world (I try to be specific or I get into an argument about diets in the third world and you know that gets messy...) to live off a plant based diet?"

Then when they say no, ask them about all the very health vegan people, particularly in sports or high profile sort of positions.

I don't usually bother with all the "But humans are meant to eat meat, joooo!" debates. I don't eat animal products to assist in a small way in reducing suffering as I can do it without increasing suffering on myself or anyone else. It's nothing to do with if humans are "suppose to" for me.
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Cow Hugger Cow Hugger SA Posts: 346
7 19 Nov 2011
although this is another great point i can use in arguments, we all know most "omnivores" disregard fact because of their belief systems.
some people truly aren't as smart as they think they are..
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Glen Glen VIC Posts: 337
8 19 Nov 2011
Wolf said:
although this is another great point i can use in arguments, we all know most "omnivores" disregard fact because of their belief systems.
Either that, or it's tutelage.
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z1 z1 VIC Posts: 535
9 19 Nov 2011
The problem is humans and primates have eaten meat throughout all our history. That makes us omnivorous.
Plus he's a Cardiologist not a Biologist. You cant look at a heart and redefine a whole species of animal based on a disease.

from what i can gather from google omnivorous  animals do get atherosclerosis
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Cow Hugger Cow Hugger SA Posts: 346
10 19 Nov 2011
but primates (the ones that do eat meat) eat it raw, if we eat it raw we get sick..
also, just because we have done something throughout history doesn't make it right..
our species is not as evolved as it believes it is..
and  if people choose to jeopardize their lives by eating something they don't need, i'm glad they get diseases and die.
it's just evolutions way of picking off the weak LOLOL
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