Being lied to

I have a distinct sense for people who don't know what they are saying when they offer me food as if it is Vegan. Lol. Most places if your instinct is that it probably isn't Vegan, then don't have it.

Even at some stand alone Vegan diners I get that about certain things though, but I think in that case... I am stubborn to accept, some things can be made without animal ingredients and still be a certain way. But yeah most of the time I will look into something I didn't have... and find out it did actually have an animal ingredient. Erg... how can any place serving and preparing food not know what they are freaking giving people... it is ridiculous. SO called fair trade MUST end... and products shouldn't be comprised of many ingredients all from the 'cheapest source' where-by those are made from components from every other crap hole...

IF the food industry is a mess... imagine every other institution based not so heavily on the necessity for trustworth. It is most obvious in those where trust is as vital as mortality.

It sounds like he squirted the tzatziki-like yoghurt based garlic sauce on your kebab. I thought the hummus at Ali Baba was usually kept in a tub in the chilled display, not in a bottle? And I don't think take away hummus usually contains animal ingredients. It'd add an unnecessary expense to what is a really cheap and simple condiment to produce.

Funny this has been bought up. I was speaking with my brother the other day, or rather my brother (whom I do not get along with and have barely talked to in years) was mocking my husband and I being vegan as we were talking about what ingredients were in something. He is a chef and gets a lot of dietary requests... Allergy requests he takes seriously but anyone who simply doesn't want to eat a certain food, he blatantly said "a vegan says 'does it have egg in it' and I just say 'no mate definitely not' even though it does, I don't care". Given my brother is a jerk, I guess a lot of people are and they are willing to lie to you because they simply don't give a flying f... about anyone but themselves. The irony here : he himself does not eat eggs.

The moral of the story here is, if you're going to a restaurant and you're worried about them not understanding vegan or taking seriously, then tell them you are allergic to dairy and eggs. I always use the allergy card. It's the safest bet. They don't want someone going into anaphylactic shock in their restaurant from some stray milk in a dish.

Lied about the food or what is the food? I have never been lied to at a restaurant about a sauce or anything but we all know what the dairy industry is telling us.

Note, that response doesn't say anything about the Tahini. I have my suspicions about it too. If you can't get an answer that satisfies you, and it makes you uncomfortable eating it, don't eat it. Just get extra humous and sweet chili sauce or something. Oh and it's standard for Ali Baba to use chicken salt, you have to ask them to make it with regular salt (although sometimes they don't have regular salt which means your chippies will be a little bland!) However, traditionally, Tahini doesn't have dairy in it, although I don't know how "traditional" their recipes would be.

I often don't tell people I'm vegan, but when I ask about the vegetarian products I tell them I have severe intolerances to egg and dairy products (which isn't a complete lie, because I do have ETHICAL intolerances to them...wink wink). Anyway, it means they always at minimum check with the chef about what's in the food. Sometimes the chef even offers to read out the ingredients of pre-made curry pastes etc that have been used. I'm telling ya, play the allergies card! (sorry people with allergies, no offence intended!)

Very true... but still sad that it needs to be that way

Gosh! Each story I hear I can't believe people's responses, and that one being a response to an allergy! Unbelievable.