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Random question for vegans that popped into my head

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Miss. Jones Miss. Jones VIC Posts: 242
31 10 Jul 2012
My values say it is not acceptable.  Any form of use of animal derived products even in private and in a good environment as such as you mentioned is the reason cruelty to animal exists now.  You see it encourages mass production because then everyone wants some.

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Miss. Jones Miss. Jones VIC Posts: 242
32 10 Jul 2012
tonijosephine said:
Outside my household, I am 100% vegan.

I have chickens though, and can say that I do consume their eggs time to time. If Mum cooks/bakes something with their eggs in it I'll eat it. As far as people are concerned I am vegan, in my own household I'm cruelty-free. I try to live an all round balanced lifestyle - eggs are a by product and I find resourcefulness as appealing as saving animals. I'd rather source something from my backyard (that would otherwise be a waste product) than consume something highly processed and imported from the other side of the world.

There's no cruelty involved, it would be like me fertilising my veggie patch with their sh*t. Ethically and obviously in my opinion, I see nothing cruel about it. I can however, see that going out and purchasing animals ie a cow, in order to use it for it's milk does not support the idea of veganism. I rescued my chickens from a battery however, to save their lives, not so I could eat eggs. They're just a handy by product that we share around with neighbours and eat from time-to-time.
I personally find this method of living or claim to vegan, "outside your household."  A contradcition.
You are a vegetarian and I am happy you are almost there.  I hope you make it fully one day because then you will be able to promote the well being of animals fully and without contradiction.  Any form/use of animal products promotes mass production.

(yes i clearly read ... outside of your house... but you are  a vegetarian)

Wiki:

Veganism is the practice of abstaining from the use of animal products. Ethical vegans reject the commodity status of animals and the use of animal products for any purpose, while dietary vegans (or strict vegetarians) eliminate them from their diet only. Another form, environmental veganism, rejects the use of animal products on the premise that the industrial practice is environmentally damaging and unsustainable.[1]


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Kelsey1 MsDrago Kelsey1 MsDrago United States Posts: 818
33 29 Jul 2012
Interesting question=Probably.
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OinkMoo OinkMoo NSW Posts: 1340
34 29 Jul 2012
I eat my chickens eggs and i have no issues with it, but i only eat mine and my nans chooks eggs becouse they are all free-ranged and live wonderful lives. Chooks naturally lay eggs, and other wise they would go to waste and can attract predators. I also give away eggs to friends who would otherwise buy caged eggs happy

But i wouldnt drink the milk if i had a cow that was lactating, i would rescue a calf and put it on the cow. I wouldnt also breed a cow just so i could take the milk  cow
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Fish Fish VIC Posts: 149
35 29 Jul 2012
Deespark said:
*Steph* said:
Deespark said:
I would however give the milk to someone who drank milk until the cow stopped producing it.
If there is nothing suckling the milk dries up, much like humans. Thought you might like to know happy
Really? I've heard stories of cows milking themselves if there isn't an suckling. Though I suppose that could of been with cows that were injected with several different hormones. In fact most likely was.
Okay according to my wonderful knowledge cows dry up at about 305 days after giving birth. This make sense to me as it would be really hard to stop the baby calve from suckling if you are a cow, well in my opinion anyway. Also if the milk keeps coming as long as something is suckling it, then why do they need to continually get the cow pregnant. It just makes more sense to me.
Oh yeah. Here is my 'very certified' proof from Wikipedia.

Production levels peak at around 40 to 60 days after calving.[19] The cow is then bred. Production declines steadily afterwards, until, at about 305 days after calving, the cow is 'dried off', and milking ceases.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dairy_cattle#section_3
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