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Kirrilly Kirrilly VIC Posts: 2092
171 21 Apr 2010
Evonne said:
Anyway I like meat now and feel the difference when I eat it. Alot more energy and brain function.
That's quite odd, most people say the opposite.

xMISSMONSTERx xMISSMONSTERx WA Posts: 2582
172 21 Apr 2010
Kirrilly said:
Evonne said:
Anyway I like meat now and feel the difference when I eat it. Alot more energy and brain function.
That's quite odd, most people say the opposite.
Yeah, the thought of meat makes me sick, and it would be too heavy on my stomach, and my conscience!

Evonne Evonne NSW Posts: 59
173 21 Apr 2010
Most people I know agree with this. Are you saying there is as much iron in spinnach as a piece of steak???

Evonne Evonne NSW Posts: 59
174 21 Apr 2010
Well if I eat too many carbs my body reacts and I become constipated. If I eat grains I react. I can only have fermented vegies and onion, brocoli and tomatie irritate me.

xMISSMONSTERx xMISSMONSTERx WA Posts: 2582
175 21 Apr 2010
Evonne said:
Most people I know agree with this. Are you saying there is as much iron in spinnach as a piece of steak???
No, but it's alot more guilt free.

Foods for anaemia:

Beetroot juice, made from raw beets, is an especially good addition to any green drink. Beetroot juice contains phosphorus, sodium, magnesium, calcium, iron, and potassium, as well as vitamins A and C, niacin, folic acid, and biotin. When these nutrients are captured in a juicing process, they remain in a form that is much easier to assimilate than synthetic nutrients. For many years in Europe, beetroot has been used as a treatment for cancer. Specific anti-carcinogens are bound to the red colouring compounds, which supposedly help to fight against cancer. As far as the anemic is concerned, beetroot increases the uptake of oxygen by as much as 400 percent.

Blackstrap molasses contains the iron and essential B vitamins necessary for red cell production.

Brewer's yeast is a good source of B vitamins -- just one way to include these nutrients in the diet, especially if there is folate- or B12-deficiency anemia present. Brewer’s yeast also comes in a fortified or vegetarian formula that includes the elusive vitamin B12. It mixes well in nutritious blender drinks, where other nutritional supplements can also be added.

Curry powder is a rich source of iron. Be aware, however, that there is a myriad of recipes for curry powder, so how much iron is actually in curry is anyone's guess; but it usually runs around 50-60 mg of iron per 100 grams.

Fermented foods like miso, tempeh, and bean pastes are rich sources of iron, as well friendly bacteria necessary for vitamin absorption.

Green foods and drinks are essential for anemia sufferers. They are rich in folic acid; and many of them are also rich in iron, particularly watercress, dandelion leaves, and the brassicas (cabbage family). Although beet greens and spinach are also rich in iron, they are also high in oxalic acid, which prevents minerals from being utilized by the body. Therefore, these foods should be eaten sparingly. Eating foods rich in vitamin C will help significantly in the absorption of the type of iron found in vegetables. Other vegetables which are especially beneficial for the anemic include parsley, green pepper, carrots, kale, and asparagus.

Herbs: Herbalists consider nettle (Urtica dioica) as a nutritious plant source of iron, as well as vitamin C, chlorophyll, and other minerals, and is an effective supplement in the treatment of iron-deficiency anemia. Other herbs that are also good are alfalfa, bilberry, cherry, dandelion, goldenseal, grape skins (only organic, as others are loaded with chemicals), hawthorn berry, mullein, Oregon grape root, pau d'arco, red raspberry, shepherd's purse, and yellow dock. Mothers can profit from drinking Rooibos tea during pregnancy and breast feeding when the baby's iron levels are likely to become depleted. Do not take goldenseal or Oregon grape root during pregnancy, and use only under supervision if there is a history of cardiovascular disease, diabetes, or glaucoma.

Highest levels: Food that contain the highest iron content (over 5 mg per average serving) are: kidney and pinto beans, blackstrap molasses, rice bran, raw beet greens (but not the roots), mustard greens, lentils, dried peaches (organic only), and prune juice.

Moderate levels: Foods with moderately high iron content (3-5 mg) include cooked dried unsulfured apricots, cooked beet greens, dates, very lean meat (organically raised), lima beans, chili, cooked spinach, and dry and fresh peas. Spirulina, or blue-green algae, has been used successfully to treat anemia. The standard dose is 1 heaping teaspoon daily. Sea vegetables are rich sources of iron.

Supplements

A good multi-vitamin and mineral supplement taken daily can help prevent and/or combat anemia.
B complex deficiencies are probably the second leading cause of nutritionally caused anemias. Taking all of the B vitamins is vital since supplementing only one can bring about a deficiency in one or more of the others. Therefore, if anemia results from folate or a B12 deficiency and supplements have to be taken, it is wise to include a vitamin B-complex capsule as well, but generally nothing more than 50 mg per day unless otherwise stated by your health care provider.
Since vitamin C aids in the absorption of iron and helps strengthen the blood vessels, the suggested amount of supplement, in addition to the foods high in the nutrient, is 500 mg. twice daily.
Copper acts as a catalyst in the formation of hemoglobin and the copper-binding protein, ceruloplasmin, plays a major role in the distribution of iron throughout the body, especially to the brain. Studies of patients with dementia were found to have inadequate levels of ceruloplasmin.
Calcium helps to regulate the timing release or intake of iron into the RBC, thus affecting its lifespan. Since calcium also competes for the same absorption sites as iron, zinc, and copper, deficiencies of these minerals can occur if one consumes great amounts of calcium. When taken supplementally, calcium should be taken separately at bedtime. The best form is calcium citrate or gluconate rather than carbonate since carbonate is the same as common chalk.
Zinc deficiencies are often seen in alcoholics, sickle cell patients, diabetics, and those with such bowel disorders as Crohn’s disease or short bowel syndrome. Zinc influences several aspects of vitamin A metabolism and a vitamin A deficiency is often seen in people with iron deficiency anemia. Taking too much, however, can also contribute to anemia; therefore, the key is moderation. Doses greater than 150 mg per day can result in sideroblastic anemia or iron deficiency, mainly because it interferes with copper absorption. Since a deficiency is just as bad as an overload, the optimal ratio of zinc to copper is 10:1, that is, 10 milligrams of zinc to one milligram of copper.
Unsulfured dried fruits are a rich source of iron, as well as B vitamins. However, because they are also high in fructose, eating too many at a time is not adviseable, but adding them to cereals or fruit drinks should provide as much iron and other nutrients as one needs in a day.


Taking vitamin c also aids in the absorption of iron!

Evonne Evonne NSW Posts: 59
176 21 Apr 2010
The other naturpaths did not give results. Thats what switched me.

xMISSMONSTERx xMISSMONSTERx WA Posts: 2582
177 21 Apr 2010
Evonne said:
The other naturpaths did not give results. Thats what switched me.
Well it seems like you're not very willing to give it a shot anyway, so I can't really help you.

Evonne Evonne NSW Posts: 59
178 21 Apr 2010
Do not agree with fortified foods, sorry. Do not know what the outcome will be.  I already consume beet juice and alot of other vegie juices. Simpley does not have enough vitamins that I get from animal foods.

Evonne Evonne NSW Posts: 59
179 21 Apr 2010
Already been there and this is why I am not vegan anymore.

Kirrilly Kirrilly VIC Posts: 2092
180 21 Apr 2010
Evonne said:
Do not agree with fortified foods, sorry. Do not know what the outcome will be.  I already consume beet juice and alot of other vegie juices. Simpley does not have enough vitamins that I get from animal foods.
But what makes you different from the people that find a vegan diet sufficient in terms of nutrients?

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