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Zachory Zachory VIC Posts: 12
41 12 Nov 2009
Matt.Y said:
Frenzal Bop said:
Zachory said:
Matt.Y said:
Zachory said:
Frenzal Bop said:
Zachory said:
Frenzal Bop said:
give a shit about humans.
YAY! GOOD JOB
does that include yourself? it should.
Yes it does though that's more due to other people treating me like shit and beating myself esteem down to absolute zero. I reached a point where i was trying to constantly kill myself and ended up getting locked up for a month where i couldn't see my friends family and was force feed drugs . I even saw some of the doctors bash a pregant girl.. but thats another story

maybe instead of being a c**ty prick you can try to use understanding  to work out why people feel the way they do. I shouldn't have to explain myslef to assholes considering there the reason i am the way i am.
look at the post above and you will understand why i said what i said.
we are very very privileged people but giving up is no better than causing harm
i'm sorry if i offended you but seriously, it could be worse.
jeeeeeeeeez
for having the brain to discuss human rights, it's surprising how ignorant you are of the world.
this guy takes medicine for anxiety. he's talked of not being able to go shopping in normal shopping centres (sorry bop if i got this wrong)

and from knowing someone with debilitating anxiety attacks, using your example as an analogy, normal life for the person i know IS LIKE walking around, waiting for a mine to explode. the guy i know can't go outside, sometimes not even outside his room, due to his anxiety. he cannot like a normal life (not bop, but a irl friend of mine).

it's gross that you make such swooping comments about mental illness. it will be hard for you to comprehend this, but for some suffers of anxiety, being confined to a 3rd world country is not unlike their life today.

i think you owe bop an apology just personally.
ummmm how do you know he has anxiety and how do you know he is getting treated
and how the f**k can you compare anxiety to starving to death or being tortured to the very inch of your life!
i feel for you and am sorry you have it but come on man, seriously.
you see, you're so ignorant of this whole thing.
because you can't see the "gun" as bop talks of, you don't understand and so just diss his problems. to him, at times like he has said, it is like a gun is pointed at his head. that's torture.

but nvm. mental illness is still a issue you can be "excused" to be ignorant of. but when you know someone with mental illness, such as anxiety, you realise how much of a problem and how cruel a problem it is.
please read the above quoted discussions

_Matt _Matt VIC Posts: 1567
42 12 Nov 2009
Zachory said:
Matt.Y said:
Frenzal Bop said:
Zachory said:
Matt.Y said:
Zachory said:
Frenzal Bop said:
Zachory said:
Frenzal Bop said:
give a shit about humans.
YAY! GOOD JOB
does that include yourself? it should.
Yes it does though that's more due to other people treating me like shit and beating myself esteem down to absolute zero. I reached a point where i was trying to constantly kill myself and ended up getting locked up for a month where i couldn't see my friends family and was force feed drugs . I even saw some of the doctors bash a pregant girl.. but thats another story

maybe instead of being a c**ty prick you can try to use understanding  to work out why people feel the way they do. I shouldn't have to explain myslef to assholes considering there the reason i am the way i am.
look at the post above and you will understand why i said what i said.
we are very very privileged people but giving up is no better than causing harm
i'm sorry if i offended you but seriously, it could be worse.
jeeeeeeeeez
for having the brain to discuss human rights, it's surprising how ignorant you are of the world.
this guy takes medicine for anxiety. he's talked of not being able to go shopping in normal shopping centres (sorry bop if i got this wrong)

and from knowing someone with debilitating anxiety attacks, using your example as an analogy, normal life for the person i know IS LIKE walking around, waiting for a mine to explode. the guy i know can't go outside, sometimes not even outside his room, due to his anxiety. he cannot like a normal life (not bop, but a irl friend of mine).

it's gross that you make such swooping comments about mental illness. it will be hard for you to comprehend this, but for some suffers of anxiety, being confined to a 3rd world country is not unlike their life today.

i think you owe bop an apology just personally.
ummmm how do you know he has anxiety and how do you know he is getting treated
and how the f**k can you compare anxiety to starving to death or being tortured to the very inch of your life!
i feel for you and am sorry you have it but come on man, seriously.
you see, you're so ignorant of this whole thing.
because you can't see the "gun" as bop talks of, you don't understand and so just diss his problems. to him, at times like he has said, it is like a gun is pointed at his head. that's torture.

but nvm. mental illness is still a issue you can be "excused" to be ignorant of. but when you know someone with mental illness, such as anxiety, you realise how much of a problem and how cruel a problem it is.
please read the above quoted discussions
cbf happy

Jojo Jojo VIC Posts: 175
43 12 Nov 2009
Grace! said:
From Jojo: the more convenient and easy to come by food people think they can still have if they go vegan, the better as far as I'm concerned.
Isn't eating animal product "convenience"? It means that people don't have to worry so much about their diet because meat is one big protein and vitamin pack. People go to fast food restaurants such as KFC and McDonalds for convenience, but I'm sure many of the people on this forum abstain from shopping there anyway. We have to think less of our convenience and indulgences like oreos and more of what else we can do for the animals, people and environment.
Yes eating animal products is convenient - because that is what is widely available.  Which is why I think that it is important to let people know that veganism can also be convenient.  People don't want to be told, veganism excludes all animal products, but also you should exclude products from this, that and the other company..  Most people would go running for the hills thinking it was too hard... so yes convenience is important, and the more vegan products available to people the better.

Zachory Zachory VIC Posts: 12
44 12 Nov 2009
Matt.Y said:
Zachory said:
Matt.Y said:
Frenzal Bop said:
Zachory said:
Matt.Y said:
Zachory said:
Frenzal Bop said:
Zachory said:
Frenzal Bop said:
give a shit about humans.
YAY! GOOD JOB
does that include yourself? it should.
Yes it does though that's more due to other people treating me like shit and beating myself esteem down to absolute zero. I reached a point where i was trying to constantly kill myself and ended up getting locked up for a month where i couldn't see my friends family and was force feed drugs . I even saw some of the doctors bash a pregant girl.. but thats another story

maybe instead of being a c**ty prick you can try to use understanding  to work out why people feel the way they do. I shouldn't have to explain myslef to assholes considering there the reason i am the way i am.
look at the post above and you will understand why i said what i said.
we are very very privileged people but giving up is no better than causing harm
i'm sorry if i offended you but seriously, it could be worse.
jeeeeeeeeez
for having the brain to discuss human rights, it's surprising how ignorant you are of the world.
this guy takes medicine for anxiety. he's talked of not being able to go shopping in normal shopping centres (sorry bop if i got this wrong)

and from knowing someone with debilitating anxiety attacks, using your example as an analogy, normal life for the person i know IS LIKE walking around, waiting for a mine to explode. the guy i know can't go outside, sometimes not even outside his room, due to his anxiety. he cannot like a normal life (not bop, but a irl friend of mine).

it's gross that you make such swooping comments about mental illness. it will be hard for you to comprehend this, but for some suffers of anxiety, being confined to a 3rd world country is not unlike their life today.

i think you owe bop an apology just personally.
ummmm how do you know he has anxiety and how do you know he is getting treated
and how the f**k can you compare anxiety to starving to death or being tortured to the very inch of your life!
i feel for you and am sorry you have it but come on man, seriously.
you see, you're so ignorant of this whole thing.
because you can't see the "gun" as bop talks of, you don't understand and so just diss his problems. to him, at times like he has said, it is like a gun is pointed at his head. that's torture.

but nvm. mental illness is still a issue you can be "excused" to be ignorant of. but when you know someone with mental illness, such as anxiety, you realise how much of a problem and how cruel a problem it is.
please read the above quoted discussions
cbf happy
so you state a counter argument yet can't be f**ked to read what you could be responding to.

Frenzal bop Frenzal bop SA Posts: 778
45 12 Nov 2009
Zachory said:
Matt.Y said:
Frenzal Bop said:
Zachory said:
Matt.Y said:
Zachory said:
Frenzal Bop said:
Zachory said:
Frenzal Bop said:
give a shit about humans.
YAY! GOOD JOB
does that include yourself? it should.
Yes it does though that's more due to other people treating me like shit and beating myself esteem down to absolute zero. I reached a point where i was trying to constantly kill myself and ended up getting locked up for a month where i couldn't see my friends family and was force feed drugs . I even saw some of the doctors bash a pregant girl.. but thats another story

maybe instead of being a c**ty prick you can try to use understanding  to work out why people feel the way they do. I shouldn't have to explain myslef to assholes considering there the reason i am the way i am.
look at the post above and you will understand why i said what i said.
we are very very privileged people but giving up is no better than causing harm
i'm sorry if i offended you but seriously, it could be worse.
jeeeeeeeeez
for having the brain to discuss human rights, it's surprising how ignorant you are of the world.
this guy takes medicine for anxiety. he's talked of not being able to go shopping in normal shopping centres (sorry bop if i got this wrong)

and from knowing someone with debilitating anxiety attacks, using your example as an analogy, normal life for the person i know IS LIKE walking around, waiting for a mine to explode. the guy i know can't go outside, sometimes not even outside his room, due to his anxiety. he cannot like a normal life (not bop, but a irl friend of mine).

it's gross that you make such swooping comments about mental illness. it will be hard for you to comprehend this, but for some suffers of anxiety, being confined to a 3rd world country is not unlike their life today.

i think you owe bop an apology just personally.
ummmm how do you know he has anxiety and how do you know he is getting treated
and how the f**k can you compare anxiety to starving to death or being tortured to the very inch of your life!
i feel for you and am sorry you have it but come on man, seriously.
you see, you're so ignorant of this whole thing.
because you can't see the "gun" as bop talks of, you don't understand and so just diss his problems. to him, at times like he has said, it is like a gun is pointed at his head. that's torture.

but nvm. mental illness is still a issue you can be "excused" to be ignorant of. but when you know someone with mental illness, such as anxiety, you realise how much of a problem and how cruel a problem it is.
please read the above quoted discussions
Zachory i noticed you went from eating meat to being completely vegan in the space off two hours? even deleted a message grace wrote to you about eating meat and you both log on at the same time. I assume your may just be a account grace has made to cover her self. If its not to much of a problem would a mod be able to check the ip adresses.. i bet they match.

Zachory Zachory VIC Posts: 12
46 12 Nov 2009
Frenzal Bop said:
Zachory said:
Matt.Y said:
Frenzal Bop said:
Zachory said:
Matt.Y said:
Zachory said:
Frenzal Bop said:
Zachory said:
Frenzal Bop said:
give a shit about humans.
YAY! GOOD JOB
does that include yourself? it should.
Yes it does though that's more due to other people treating me like shit and beating myself esteem down to absolute zero. I reached a point where i was trying to constantly kill myself and ended up getting locked up for a month where i couldn't see my friends family and was force feed drugs . I even saw some of the doctors bash a pregant girl.. but thats another story

maybe instead of being a c**ty prick you can try to use understanding  to work out why people feel the way they do. I shouldn't have to explain myslef to assholes considering there the reason i am the way i am.
look at the post above and you will understand why i said what i said.
we are very very privileged people but giving up is no better than causing harm
i'm sorry if i offended you but seriously, it could be worse.
jeeeeeeeeez
for having the brain to discuss human rights, it's surprising how ignorant you are of the world.
this guy takes medicine for anxiety. he's talked of not being able to go shopping in normal shopping centres (sorry bop if i got this wrong)

and from knowing someone with debilitating anxiety attacks, using your example as an analogy, normal life for the person i know IS LIKE walking around, waiting for a mine to explode. the guy i know can't go outside, sometimes not even outside his room, due to his anxiety. he cannot like a normal life (not bop, but a irl friend of mine).

it's gross that you make such swooping comments about mental illness. it will be hard for you to comprehend this, but for some suffers of anxiety, being confined to a 3rd world country is not unlike their life today.

i think you owe bop an apology just personally.
ummmm how do you know he has anxiety and how do you know he is getting treated
and how the f**k can you compare anxiety to starving to death or being tortured to the very inch of your life!
i feel for you and am sorry you have it but come on man, seriously.
you see, you're so ignorant of this whole thing.
because you can't see the "gun" as bop talks of, you don't understand and so just diss his problems. to him, at times like he has said, it is like a gun is pointed at his head. that's torture.

but nvm. mental illness is still a issue you can be "excused" to be ignorant of. but when you know someone with mental illness, such as anxiety, you realise how much of a problem and how cruel a problem it is.
please read the above quoted discussions
Zachory i noticed you went from eating meat to being completely vegan in the space off two hours? even deleted a message grace wrote to you about eating meat and you both log on at the same time. I assume your may just be a account grace has made to cover her self. If its not to much of a problem would a mod be able to check the ip adresses.. i bet they match.
no, not the same but thanks

Zachory Zachory VIC Posts: 12
47 12 Nov 2009
Zachory said:
Frenzal Bop said:
Zachory said:
Matt.Y said:
Frenzal Bop said:
Zachory said:
Matt.Y said:
Zachory said:
Frenzal Bop said:
Zachory said:
Frenzal Bop said:
give a shit about humans.
YAY! GOOD JOB
does that include yourself? it should.
Yes it does though that's more due to other people treating me like shit and beating myself esteem down to absolute zero. I reached a point where i was trying to constantly kill myself and ended up getting locked up for a month where i couldn't see my friends family and was force feed drugs . I even saw some of the doctors bash a pregant girl.. but thats another story

maybe instead of being a c**ty prick you can try to use understanding  to work out why people feel the way they do. I shouldn't have to explain myslef to assholes considering there the reason i am the way i am.
look at the post above and you will understand why i said what i said.
we are very very privileged people but giving up is no better than causing harm
i'm sorry if i offended you but seriously, it could be worse.
jeeeeeeeeez
for having the brain to discuss human rights, it's surprising how ignorant you are of the world.
this guy takes medicine for anxiety. he's talked of not being able to go shopping in normal shopping centres (sorry bop if i got this wrong)

and from knowing someone with debilitating anxiety attacks, using your example as an analogy, normal life for the person i know IS LIKE walking around, waiting for a mine to explode. the guy i know can't go outside, sometimes not even outside his room, due to his anxiety. he cannot like a normal life (not bop, but a irl friend of mine).

it's gross that you make such swooping comments about mental illness. it will be hard for you to comprehend this, but for some suffers of anxiety, being confined to a 3rd world country is not unlike their life today.

i think you owe bop an apology just personally.
ummmm how do you know he has anxiety and how do you know he is getting treated
and how the f**k can you compare anxiety to starving to death or being tortured to the very inch of your life!
i feel for you and am sorry you have it but come on man, seriously.
you see, you're so ignorant of this whole thing.
because you can't see the "gun" as bop talks of, you don't understand and so just diss his problems. to him, at times like he has said, it is like a gun is pointed at his head. that's torture.

but nvm. mental illness is still a issue you can be "excused" to be ignorant of. but when you know someone with mental illness, such as anxiety, you realise how much of a problem and how cruel a problem it is.
please read the above quoted discussions
Zachory i noticed you went from eating meat to being completely vegan in the space off two hours? even deleted a message grace wrote to you about eating meat and you both log on at the same time. I assume your may just be a account grace has made to cover her self. If its not to much of a problem would a mod be able to check the ip adresses.. i bet they match.
no, not the same but thanks
and all i did was actually complete the account information

Grace! Grace! VIC Posts: 23
48 12 Nov 2009
Frenzal Bop said:
Zachory said:
Matt.Y said:
Frenzal Bop said:
Zachory said:
Matt.Y said:
Zachory said:
Frenzal Bop said:
Zachory said:
Frenzal Bop said:
give a shit about humans.
YAY! GOOD JOB
does that include yourself? it should.
Yes it does though that's more due to other people treating me like shit and beating myself esteem down to absolute zero. I reached a point where i was trying to constantly kill myself and ended up getting locked up for a month where i couldn't see my friends family and was force feed drugs . I even saw some of the doctors bash a pregant girl.. but thats another story

maybe instead of being a c**ty prick you can try to use understanding  to work out why people feel the way they do. I shouldn't have to explain myslef to assholes considering there the reason i am the way i am.
look at the post above and you will understand why i said what i said.
we are very very privileged people but giving up is no better than causing harm
i'm sorry if i offended you but seriously, it could be worse.
jeeeeeeeeez
for having the brain to discuss human rights, it's surprising how ignorant you are of the world.
this guy takes medicine for anxiety. he's talked of not being able to go shopping in normal shopping centres (sorry bop if i got this wrong)

and from knowing someone with debilitating anxiety attacks, using your example as an analogy, normal life for the person i know IS LIKE walking around, waiting for a mine to explode. the guy i know can't go outside, sometimes not even outside his room, due to his anxiety. he cannot like a normal life (not bop, but a irl friend of mine).

it's gross that you make such swooping comments about mental illness. it will be hard for you to comprehend this, but for some suffers of anxiety, being confined to a 3rd world country is not unlike their life today.

i think you owe bop an apology just personally.
ummmm how do you know he has anxiety and how do you know he is getting treated
and how the f**k can you compare anxiety to starving to death or being tortured to the very inch of your life!
i feel for you and am sorry you have it but come on man, seriously.
you see, you're so ignorant of this whole thing.
because you can't see the "gun" as bop talks of, you don't understand and so just diss his problems. to him, at times like he has said, it is like a gun is pointed at his head. that's torture.

but nvm. mental illness is still a issue you can be "excused" to be ignorant of. but when you know someone with mental illness, such as anxiety, you realise how much of a problem and how cruel a problem it is.
please read the above quoted discussions
Zachory i noticed you went from eating meat to being completely vegan in the space off two hours? even deleted a message grace wrote to you about eating meat and you both log on at the same time. I assume your may just be a account grace has made to cover her self. If its not to much of a problem would a mod be able to check the ip adresses.. i bet they match.
I'm not a part of your discussion? I started this on a completely different topic and now I have you three flooding it with abuse toward one another. I have no control over whoever's consumer choices. Go ahead and check i.p. addresses if it pleases you, but I don't really want you on this discussion board. It's not a war.

_Matt _Matt VIC Posts: 1567
49 12 Nov 2009
Grace! said:
Frenzal Bop said:
Zachory said:
Matt.Y said:
Frenzal Bop said:
Zachory said:
Matt.Y said:
Zachory said:
Frenzal Bop said:
Zachory said:
Frenzal Bop said:
give a shit about humans.
YAY! GOOD JOB
does that include yourself? it should.
Yes it does though that's more due to other people treating me like shit and beating myself esteem down to absolute zero. I reached a point where i was trying to constantly kill myself and ended up getting locked up for a month where i couldn't see my friends family and was force feed drugs . I even saw some of the doctors bash a pregant girl.. but thats another story

maybe instead of being a c**ty prick you can try to use understanding  to work out why people feel the way they do. I shouldn't have to explain myslef to assholes considering there the reason i am the way i am.
look at the post above and you will understand why i said what i said.
we are very very privileged people but giving up is no better than causing harm
i'm sorry if i offended you but seriously, it could be worse.
jeeeeeeeeez
for having the brain to discuss human rights, it's surprising how ignorant you are of the world.
this guy takes medicine for anxiety. he's talked of not being able to go shopping in normal shopping centres (sorry bop if i got this wrong)

and from knowing someone with debilitating anxiety attacks, using your example as an analogy, normal life for the person i know IS LIKE walking around, waiting for a mine to explode. the guy i know can't go outside, sometimes not even outside his room, due to his anxiety. he cannot like a normal life (not bop, but a irl friend of mine).

it's gross that you make such swooping comments about mental illness. it will be hard for you to comprehend this, but for some suffers of anxiety, being confined to a 3rd world country is not unlike their life today.

i think you owe bop an apology just personally.
ummmm how do you know he has anxiety and how do you know he is getting treated
and how the f**k can you compare anxiety to starving to death or being tortured to the very inch of your life!
i feel for you and am sorry you have it but come on man, seriously.
you see, you're so ignorant of this whole thing.
because you can't see the "gun" as bop talks of, you don't understand and so just diss his problems. to him, at times like he has said, it is like a gun is pointed at his head. that's torture.

but nvm. mental illness is still a issue you can be "excused" to be ignorant of. but when you know someone with mental illness, such as anxiety, you realise how much of a problem and how cruel a problem it is.
please read the above quoted discussions
Zachory i noticed you went from eating meat to being completely vegan in the space off two hours? even deleted a message grace wrote to you about eating meat and you both log on at the same time. I assume your may just be a account grace has made to cover her self. If its not to much of a problem would a mod be able to check the ip adresses.. i bet they match.
I'm not a part of your discussion? I started this on a completely different topic and now I have you three flooding it with abuse toward one another. I have no control over whoever's consumer choices. Go ahead and check i.p. addresses if it pleases you, but I don't really want you on this discussion board. It's not a war.
lol, not a war

i just think it was too far when zachkory dismissed mental illness as a real problem.

Grace! Grace! VIC Posts: 23
50 12 Nov 2009
I'm aware that it's gone too far.
And it not relevant to the topic! As I said earlier, if you have to make something of it, take it outside of the forum, and don't accuse me of fraud.

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