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When the person you love won't live compassionately.

I feel ashamed in my partner for eating meat... is this wrong?

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AC AZZA AC AZZA VIC Posts: 158
11 4 Feb 2013
I thought I'd lend a guys perspective.

Don't bother "nagging" him about it. As you have stated he knows how you feel about it.
Maybe his belief is that he simply doesn't believe Animals matter as much as we do and has no problem consuming it.
So go for another angle, try to find some other way.

My best bet would be saying oh remember my friend "blah blah" she lost so much weight, or maybe leave an article lying around saying how much veganism can improve your heealth and what not.

It sounds like he is only being veg with you for you. Don't bother with whatever way you have been discussing with him before as he will be disinterested in it.
Find another angle.
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4_da_animals1 4_da_animals1 SA Posts: 3293
12 5 Feb 2013
Niekard said:
I have sat him down and spoken to him about it many times. So many times I've asked him why and he's refused to give me an answer. Very recently it had me so frustrated I told him that the future for our relationship was bleak, as I did not wish to marry a man and therefore contribute my resources and love to someone who would give profit to the suffering of animals, and my friends.

This is why he's eating it LESS. He guiltily asks my permission and of course I can't say no, and like hell am I going to say yes. A lot of the time he gets frustrated and I end up very upset.

Earthlings might be the way, I've never seen it as I'm very sensitive to animals (and animals only). He's the kind of person that wants to turn his head from the suffering and the truth so it might be hard, he doesn't want to feel guilty...

Wish me luck.
Try watching it on your own first. You don't want to show real weakness whilst watching it with others, or they feel it's an excuse to look away too. I find it hard enough when i come downstairs and I smell bacon or fish cooking, as the majority of my housemates eat meat. They are steadily improving however, as I cook and share my cooking skills with them and so far they love my food. happy)) but it's a painful process... I can't imagine what it would be like to be in a RELATIONSHIP with someone who isn't on the same page as you dietry wise. good luck. love
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Niekard Niekard SA Posts: 32
13 9 Feb 2013
Thank you for all your lovely replies. A lot of you are more patient than I am, but vegetarianism is much too important for me to just ignore it on a daily basis. I feel like if I don't 'nag' I'm letting the animal down, it feels like a personal pain that I think about at night, I feel so guilty. I think about what animal it was, and if I could've stopped him if I said something. I think I'm honestly just going to have to tell him that respecting animals is a part of me, and if he can't do the same, he isn't respecting a part of who I am. And that's okay, it simply means we're not meant to be. Despite what he says, gluttony can be the only reason to devour animal flesh, and it's an insult to me when he has seen me cry and ask him so many times why, that he can then sit next to me and order beef or pork for dinner and consume it in front of me. I will of course have one last conversation with him, but I do believe he knows that this was going to happen. I can't keep smiling at him and staying quiet when on the inside I'm thinking about how unhappy I am with him, how ashamed I am, how I can't live with someone like this for my entire life. Thank you, everyone, again...
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Rowan011 Rowan011 WA Posts: 92
14 9 Feb 2013
Niekard said:
Thank you for all your lovely replies. A lot of you are more patient than I am, but vegetarianism is much too important for me to just ignore it on a daily basis. I feel like if I don't 'nag' I'm letting the animal down, it feels like a personal pain that I think about at night, I feel so guilty. I think about what animal it was, and if I could've stopped him if I said something. I think I'm honestly just going to have to tell him that respecting animals is a part of me, and if he can't do the same, he isn't respecting a part of who I am. And that's okay, it simply means we're not meant to be. Despite what he says, gluttony can be the only reason to devour animal flesh, and it's an insult to me when he has seen me cry and ask him so many times why, that he can then sit next to me and order beef or pork for dinner and consume it in front of me. I will of course have one last conversation with him, but I do believe he knows that this was going to happen. I can't keep smiling at him and staying quiet when on the inside I'm thinking about how unhappy I am with him, how ashamed I am, how I can't live with someone like this for my entire life. Thank you, everyone, again...
How about you say instead of flowers on valentines day your present can be to watch Earthlings from start to finish? tongue
Again, only light heartened, forum suggestions!
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Rowan011 Rowan011 WA Posts: 92
15 9 Feb 2013
* For him to watch
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Grimmwar Grimmwar NSW Posts: 5
16 9 Feb 2013
Niekard said:
Thank you for all your lovely replies. A lot of you are more patient than I am, but vegetarianism is much too important for me to just ignore it on a daily basis. I feel like if I don't 'nag' I'm letting the animal down, it feels like a personal pain that I think about at night, I feel so guilty. I think about what animal it was, and if I could've stopped him if I said something. I think I'm honestly just going to have to tell him that respecting animals is a part of me, and if he can't do the same, he isn't respecting a part of who I am. And that's okay, it simply means we're not meant to be. Despite what he says, gluttony can be the only reason to devour animal flesh, and it's an insult to me when he has seen me cry and ask him so many times why, that he can then sit next to me and order beef or pork for dinner and consume it in front of me. I will of course have one last conversation with him, but I do believe he knows that this was going to happen. I can't keep smiling at him and staying quiet when on the inside I'm thinking about how unhappy I am with him, how ashamed I am, how I can't live with someone like this for my entire life. Thank you, everyone, again...
It seems to me that you have answered your own question. My own experience is that I could no longer have a serious relationship with some one who was not a vegan. It would be just too hard and I would be living a lie. On one hand I am a very tolerant person but I could not share my life with some one who was not a vegan. I understand your pain and I hope you make the right decision for you and find happiness.
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Aria Aria VIC Posts: 63
17 9 Feb 2013
I think in a relationship you can be different to one another, different interests, likes, dislikes etc.. But i believe that your core beliefs need to be the same. Choosing to be vegan is not done lightly there is 100% heart in that and i could not share that same heart with a person who does not see things on the same level. That is just my opinion and of course love can be so damn tricky... You may have to make a hard decision, love isn't always enough. Think about being in a relationship with a person that shared this life with you, im sure you'll do what is best for you. im not sure he deserves someone so passionate and kind hearted. Best of luck.
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Ashlyn Ashlyn WA Posts: 104
18 9 Feb 2013
When i learnt about what was how the animals were treated and how bad meat was for you i went vegetarian with plans to go vegan as soon as i used up all the dairy in my house. I tried to explain to my partner how bad it was and that i wasnt going to cook it any more he was fine with it. he didnt mind at all.. But it wasnt until we watch Gary Yourofsky speech together that he was like. 'hmmm ok , gotta stop drinking milk now' (he worked at a place where they distributed masters milk)  so i knew that he was serious....So yeah..thats all it took! You should definetly watch it with your bf =] Im so glad we are both Vegan together, i honestly couldnt be with him if he wasnt..
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Hannahcolby Hannahcolby NSW Posts: 93
19 11 Feb 2013
I am in the exact same boat as you. I live with my boyfriend, and he is a meat eater. I tried for months and months to ask him to give it a go. He never did. We had countless fights about it, he refused to watch the videos on it. He says that animals are there for us to eat. They are bread for us to eat. I used to get so upset, cry, become frustrated. It was too much. I thought, before I made the choice to become a vegan, I used to do all the things that he does, and I used to think it was normal, the way of life. I now see it as this. If two years ago, someone I was dating asked me to completely change my lifestyle to keep them happy for something that I didnt feel strongly about, I wouldnt be happy. He is his own person. And he makes his own decisions. Its taken me so long to final get to this point. But now I am here, I realize that no one can push a way of life against someone.

Becoming vegetarian or vegan after a life time of consuming meat is hard. And without the love of animals like us vegans have, meat eaters dont have the motivation to do it.

Try and be paitent. My man still eats meat, but he has cut down on alot of red meat, he barley eats it at all. He eats alot of fish, and chicken. And im ok with it, because I know he has cut back on something that he loved for me. Its not everything but its something. And to me, that shows that he does care.

If he woke up tomorrow and decided that he wanted to join a religious cult, I would support it, but I would not join myself. Because I dont believe in it.

Be paitent  happy If you love your man, and before you went vegetarian you had a great relationship, and you were happy, then respect that he has his life choices and you have yours. Im sure he isnt saying "if you dont eat meat, I cant be with you". Respect each others views.

I hope this helps.

peace love
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Sez Cat Sez Cat VIC Posts: 27
20 11 Feb 2013
I too am a vegan and my partner is currently a meat eater. It seems from the above comments that most of us have become vegan due to animal rights/welfare issues. For my partner, he became vegetarian due to food poisoning that put him right off meat. He eventually got back onto meat again but in the last week has given up dairy as he is convinced this may be contributing to poor skin.

We're all different and while (in my mind) animal rights is the most compelling reason to make the switch, like I say to him "Ill take it". He knows where I stand and he aims at reducing his meat intake. And raves to his meat eating friends/family that vegan deserts are the best. Who would have thought a meat eater could be a vegan advocate (so to speak).

I agree that for some the transition to a vegetarian/vegan diet can take some time. But as some of you have said, it does need to be your partner's decision. If he is only changing for you it's likely he'll resent it and it's likely to have a negative impact on your relationship.

It seems that this is a real turning point for your relationship. Could you sit down and have an open discussion about it? Ie: this is what I believe, what do you believe, do you see yourself ever going veg? Is there a way we can work around it? What ideas does he have? Can you find other support with your veganism, i.e.: social groups or volunteering to give you some relief and a place to vent?

Keep in mind we all have at some point (with exception) had friends, family or work colleagues who eat meat. Some of mine are best friends. But this is not to say it isn't difficult when it is the one person you love and live with.

In then end tho both you and your partner need to be happy. I hope you can work through this.

P.S  my partner's thoughts are to try the health angle and prepare the most delicious vegan meals. start with the deserts-the way to a man's heart happy
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