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ox.kylie.xo ox.kylie.xo QLD Posts: 861
11 19 Dec 2013
Yeah like I said you either honestly take things the wrong way or you get what a person is actually saying though YOU twist it not me... and yes i was clearly stating YOU do not have a decent education if you took what I was saying the wrong way, as anyone with half a brain can see that i was the one attacked.... and FYI I don't twist anything I state facts... and also how do you figure that any of my comments are ill educated all of my comments are always backed up with tangible evidence... as you can clearly remember me posting in one of my comments above my evidence regarding sea world... and funny that after i posted my evidence backing myself up... you tried to take another approach at trying to undermine me by saying I'm apparently rude and that i twist thing... when clearly it is you girls twisting crap... stop with your pathetic cyber bully, it is not nice and is not appreciated!
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sophxx sophxx NSW Posts: 169
12 19 Dec 2013
Aside from this fight, the peta2 references are not applicable to the Australian Sea World, and as far as I'm aware they are not related. I'm not sure there even are orcas at the Australian Sea World.

I'm sure if there was mistreatment going on then AA would be the first to inform us of it.
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ox.kylie.xo ox.kylie.xo QLD Posts: 861
13 19 Dec 2013
Good point sophxx happy thanbks for not joining in in attacking me... AA is good to get details off... but this isn't just about the whales im talking about the treatment of all animals at SeaWorld... and not just the treatment but also the fact that they are used for pure entertainment which wrong, they should be free...

Desiree please also see the links below... and while yes some of them are American please do not think that just because it does not specify that these cruel practises are carried out here it does not mean that they arn't,  Australia SeaWorld is owned by Village Roadshow Theme Parks and the American ones are owned by SeaWorld Entertainment... but they are all funded by the governments (tax payers) and the sales they make...

We are all aware the government is all about money... hell i literally just spoke to ACF this afternoon about conservation while signing up for a monthly donation and they said that the government will only listen to people if it is good for the wallet and there are heaps of people backing a cause (this is tangible as this organisation takes the government to court almost every other day to fight for conservation)...the gov don't care if its horrible or cruel as long as it is cheap and somewhat effective they don't care if it hurts animals, the government is purely about economics and i know that we here all know that from experience... as an example the GBR is almost listed as a world heritage site in danger and scientist that specialise in marine ecosystems along with the independent science panel whom overlooks their work have all provided evidence to both federal and state governments that it is not a good idea to approve the new coal and gas ports....But as we all now they still went ahead and approved it anyways.... fair enough they initiated the Reef Water Quality Protection Plan to reduce run off from the farms adjacent to the reef (which is actually a decent regulation if anyone wants to reference it just Google the name and look for the PDF version, but in implementing the reef plan the government left out quite a few of the advised regulations that would have been better for the reefs health all because they weren't as cheap as what some practises where already conducting) but the only reason why some regulation passed and where implemented into the plan was only because it is cost effective and the sediment pile up wasn't looking good for the tourism industry which happens to bring millions of dollars each year in to our country... but now it has caused myself any many others to come to the conclusion that the government wants our the marine park to be on the brink of the list so then if people think that it may be lost soon they will be more inclined to come here and see it before it is destroyed... this would subsequently provide Australia with millions more each year that they keep this insanity going... by doing this there are not just being reckless with the corals and seagrasses but they are also endangering the animal and organisms... all for profit... sad its really said.

but even with out the video of my evidence supporting my claim that SeaWorld drill the whales teeth with a power drill...  buying a regular power drill... thats right you guessed it is the cheaper option... but putting all that aside im against haveing any animal in cptivity no matter how they are treated they should be free...

the video the link care2 takes you to did show evidence of SeaWorld drilling killer whales teeth's... i tried to find a copy on youtube but was unsuccessful... you could sea the SeaWorld labels on clothes and it was very obvious it was SeaWorld.... but for some reason when i just clicked on it a moment ago it said it has been taken down so obviously sea world took people to court for this and won... also sea world forbids workers talking about this cruel dental practise, they even make you sign a legal waiver... but i know for a fact they do and if it wasn't for that video being removed from the web then i would have been able to prove this.

“Can We See Our Hypocrisy to Animals?” - http://www.animalsaustralia.org/media/opinion.php?op=349

“Keeping animals in captivity for our own entertainment must stop” -
http://www.animalsaustralia.org/media/opinion.php?op=371

"Fish on Sea World menu offensive" -
http://www.animalsaustralia.org/media/in_the_news.php?article=3296

“Jenny Moxham: why animals should be set free” -
http://www.animalsaustralia.org/media/opinion.php?op=81

plus so many more... this takes you to a search that i have done on via the animals australia website (i know the link say google but yeah i did search it via the AA website it must use google to do its searches)

http://www.google.com/cse?cx=008241258740189687045%3Agyi8ci3afeo&cof=FORID%3A0&q=sea+world&sa.x=0&sa.y=0#gsc.tab=0&gsc.q=sea%20world&gsc.page=1
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maddie45 maddie45 VIC Posts: 167
14 19 Dec 2013
ox.kylie.xo said:
Maddie45
Oh and really... that's your choice of word... incomprehensible? FYI Incomprehensible means not able to be understood; not intelligible. Sentence example: "a language which is incomprehensible to anyone outside the office"

I pretty sure you understood it all as you didn't once reply asking what I meant so that now leaves me to believe that you think my comments were unintelligent and so what out of my post do you find unintelligent?

A horse sustains many injuries but one of the most common:  ligament and tendon injuries while yes they can get these injuries while just running on their own they are most commonly done when ridden as they are carrying more weight

The instructions given to the horse via the bit are cruel and are all able to be given without a bit... it causes grave discomfort to the horses

No whipping, kicking or spurs....

Not to mention it is also exploiting the horse for your own entertainment... they should be free they are not ours to have dominion over... you cannot own another living being, you may be a carer but owning them pretty much says that they may not live their lives as their own and that they are at your beck and call...

But at the same time I was not trying to be pushy with my view though you instantly attacked me... when I just lightly mention it...

Maggie9999
And my lack of understanding peoples perspective... FYI your lack of understanding what I actually mean by my posts... I wasn’t being rude at all in the horse thread I was simply explaining over and over again why I think it is cruel and trying to explain that I did not mean any rudeness by my comments though they kept saying that I did... where if you actually read it you would see that I was attacked thank you... and was just defending myself.....

Also to your comment in regards to my links that I provided... newspaper article are 90% of the time credible depending on the newspaper and the journalist (the majority of newspaper screen there articles before submitting them for wordpress as by a fact checker to ensure that the article in based on facts – I even use alot of articles for TAFE and others use them at UNI but they have to be credible and this particular article checks out to be based on fact... but yes you are right in some cases they are written by untrustworthy sources but like I said I only post facts!) also please note the care2 one is a video footage of this killer whale being tortured by people taking out the teeth with power drills.

Also... people do attack you on here for no reason I’ve seen many of post where people have been absolutely attacked for no reason!! And by you saying that “people don’t pull you up on being rude for no reason” leads me to believe that you have based your entire opinion from what the other two people have said... and I never “beat down” anyone I simply told her to not be rude to me as I was nice enough to take the time out of by busy life to help her find saddles that are not leather or fur,,, and she was very rude to me! And yes I totally agree just because one person says something is wrong doesn’t mean it is....the same as some people saying something is a certain way doesn’t mean it is, but yet you have based your perception of me entirely from what others have said about me.... anyone in their right mind would know that I meant no rudeness, but then again you would all be aware that you are attacking me for absolutely no reason other than the fact that you all have nothing better to do.. And I understand your new and all but you don’t have to make friends the stupid and horrible way “ have a common enemy and you’re in” just because your new doesn’t mean you should just side with anyone to make friends, do you even have your own opinions cause if you do you would have clearly seen that I was the one that was attacked and that in no way what so ever did I mean it the way you guys are claiming it to be.

And I would sincerely like to hear what you think on horse ridding then if you claim that I am wrong for saying I believe it to be cruel?


And do you people realise the time it takes to continue this stupid argument we could all be saving preciouses lives...  but no you guys would rather be a waste of time... starting crap over your how you portrayed something someone said... and to make things worse the person has even explained themselves but yet you all continue... real constructive time management guys...
Sorry, I've only just found this! Understandably so, since its in the sea world topic...

I know exactly what incomprehensible means? I graduated high school. And I completely believe that your posts were unintelligent. Not that you are unintelligent, fyi.

Heres a list of things i did not understand:
- Constant use of the term 'embrase'. what does that even mean?
- Spasmodic capital letters. Is your shift button broken?
- …  << this instead of using a full stop. My english teacher's pet hate!
- Ceaseless repetition of your same invalid points.
- The fact that you were being completely illogical and ridiculous - 'horses play along to avoid the alternative of certain death' ?
- Spell. Check.


Clear these points up or not, I'm not overly concerned. Ciao!
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ox.kylie.xo ox.kylie.xo QLD Posts: 861
15 19 Dec 2013
- Constant use of the term 'embrase'. what does that even mean?

Embrace means: accept (a belief, theory, or change) willingly and enthusiastically.
"besides traditional methods, artists are embracing new technology" (this is what a quick search in google will bring up) or another sentence example that i would use is "You openly embrace it with an open mind" So effectively I was trying to inspire you to see my perspective, but you instantly went on the attack.


- Spasmodic capital letters. Is your shift button broken?

Do you know what spasmodic means? http://www.audioenglish.org/dictionary/spasmodic.htm  if your referring to sense 2, you are over exaggerating as i have only used caps once and it was to highlight the part of my text as clearly you can not highlight on here...

- …  << this instead of using a full stop. My english teacher's pet hate!

lol you don't even know what they are called... ellipsis mark, sorry but just because it is your English teacher's pet hate doesn't mean that i have used it unintelligently... do you even know the function of the ellipsis mark... it is effectively the same as using a coma, it simply means continuing on from there... so due to that i do believe that i have used these properly.

- Ceaseless repetition of your same invalid points.

Well i wouldn't have to repeat what i mean if you girls would read it the right way the first time... though even after i have already said how i actually mean things even proving how i actually meant it to be read... you all still continue to go on about crap twisting every thing i say...

- The fact that you were being completely illogical and ridiculous - 'horses play along to avoid the alternative of certain death' ?

Makes no sense... really so if you cant ride a horse... are they not put down? (certain death - is the reality)

- Spell. Check.

Ummm clearly you haven't read where I have continuously added a whole new post directly after a post correcting my spelling errors... and to my defence have said on each of those occasions that the auto correct on my phone is crap... the reason the last 2 days haven't had any of these problems is because im using my laptop...
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maddie45 maddie45 VIC Posts: 167
16 19 Dec 2013
- Constant use of the term 'embrase'. what does that even mean?

Embrace means: accept (a belief, theory, or change) willingly and enthusiastically.
"besides traditional methods, artists are embracing new technology" (this is what a quick search in google will bring up) or another sentence example that i would use is "You openly embrace it with an open mind" So effectively I was trying to inspire you to see my perspective, but you instantly went on the attack.

My apologies.. not.  If you had a) used correct spelling, and b) Used the word the correct form, I would have understood. e.g. 'I was merely trying to embrase her to think of that side of it.' Your grammar hurts my brain.

- Spasmodic capital letters. Is your shift button broken?

Do you know what spasmodic means? http://www.audioenglish.org/dictionary/spasmodic.htm  if your referring to sense 2, you are over exaggerating as i have only used caps once and it was to highlight the part of my text as clearly you can not highlight on here…

Please check the link before you post it, meaning 2. 'Occurs in spells' Some posts, you capitalization is fine. In others, its non-exsistant.


- …  << this instead of using a full stop. My english teacher's pet hate!

lol you don't even know what they are called... ellipsis mark, sorry but just because it is your English teacher's pet hate doesn't mean that i have used it unintelligently... do you even know the function of the ellipsis mark... it is effectively the same as using a coma, it simply means continuing on from there... so due to that i do believe that i have used these properly.

laughoutloud. I 'drew' it for you with the assumption that you wouldn't know what its called. Sorry, not just my teacher. Every VCE marker, uni professor I have had. Have you ever read a piece of academic writing what that uses an ellipsis mark to virtually replace the full stop?

- Ceaseless repetition of your same invalid points.

Well i wouldn't have to repeat what i mean if you girls would read it the right way the first time... though even after i have already said how i actually mean things even proving how i actually meant it to be read... you all still continue to go on about crap twisting every thing i say…

Heres kinda how the conversation went:
Me - makes a statement
You - rebuttal
Me  - Reply to rebuttal
You - Replies to my rebuttal with the same rebuttal you used previously.


- The fact that you were being completely illogical and ridiculous - 'horses play along to avoid the alternative of certain death' ?

Makes no sense... really so if you cant ride a horse... are they not put down? (certain death - is the reality)

Uh, my horses have never seen another horse put down. How could they even know that happens?I have two riding horses and three retirees. Don't you think, the two ridden horses would notice the other three being alive despite not being ridden?

- Spell. Check.

Ummm clearly you haven't read where I have continuously added a whole new post directly after a post correcting my spelling errors... and to my defence have said on each of those occasions that the auto correct on my phone is crap... the reason the last 2 days haven't had any of these problems is because im using my laptop…

Think you missed a few wink
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ox.kylie.xo ox.kylie.xo QLD Posts: 861
17 20 Dec 2013
- Constant use of the term 'embrase'. what does that even mean?

Embrace means: accept (a belief, theory, or change) willingly and enthusiastically.
"besides traditional methods, artists are embracing new technology" (this is what a quick search in google will bring up) or another sentence example that i would use is "You openly embrace it with an open mind" So effectively I was trying to inspire you to see my perspective, but you instantly went on the attack.

- My apologies.. not.  If you had a) used correct spelling, and b) Used the word the correct form, I would have understood. e.g. 'I was merely trying to embrase her to think of that side of it.' Your grammar hurts my brain.

Firstly i did use the correct spelling (unless auto correct changed it... and i didn't notice it) secondly i did use the word correctly... it's funny that you example sentence is exactly what i used in my writing... shows how much you know!! happy clearly your straining yourself just trying to understand, if it as you said "hurts your brain"

[FYI if you're going to be so pathetic... please note you have spelled embraced wrong in the above ramble, and also you used the ellipsis incorrectly it is meant to be 3 dots, not 2... then space and then you add your conclusion/statement]

- Spasmodic capital letters. Is your shift button broken?

Do you know what spasmodic means? http://www.audioenglish.org/dictionary/spasmodic.htm  if your referring to sense 2, you are over exaggerating as i have only used caps once and it was to highlight the part of my text as clearly you can not highlight on here…

- Please check the link before you post it, meaning 2. 'Occurs in spells' Some posts, you capitalization is fine. In others, its non-exsistant.

[FYI please check you grammar in the above sentence you wrote... "you capitalization is fine"? Also please note that at times it does automatically change it... (woops forgot not to go back and check it just so you can stop being so pathetic...!!!). And also note that you have spelled 'non-existent' above, that's right you guess it... wrong].

- …  << this instead of using a full stop. My english teacher's pet hate!

lol you don't even know what they are called... ellipsis mark, sorry but just because it is your English teacher's pet hate doesn't mean that i have used it unintelligently... do you even know the function of the ellipsis mark... it is effectively the same as using a coma, it simply means continuing on from there... so due to that i do believe that i have used it properly.


-  laughoutloud. I 'drew' it for you with the assumption that you wouldn't know what its called. Sorry, not just my teacher. Every VCE marker, uni professor I have had. Have you ever read a piece of academic writing what that uses an ellipsis mark to virtually replace the full stop?

Oh my dear... looks like someone is making crap up again, clearly you didn't know what it means, because if you did you would have used the name for it... what a joke! Oh and like i said, i didn't use it in the place of a full stop (that would be using it incorrectly) The ellipsis mark is referred to as a suspension point, its use is to put in place of where a coma would otherwise be to add emphasis (or suspense) to your writing. (eg a very common use of this is when someone is telling a story verbally and they say (dot dot dot or if using sound effects don don don) and then their statement or conclusion.

[You need to use a capital for the word 'English' above and also uni is meant to be UNI as it is an abbreviation of a place]

- Ceaseless repetition of your same invalid points.

Well i wouldn't have to repeat what i mean if you girls would read it the right way the first time... though even after i have already said how i actually mean things even proving how i actually meant it to be read... you all still continue to go on about crap twisting every thing i say…

- Heres kinda how the conversation went:
Me - makes a statement
You - rebuttal
Me  - Reply to rebuttal
You - Replies to my rebuttal with the same rebuttal you used previously.

lie...lie... lie..! Firstly it is this type of crap as to why i repeat myself over and over. Once again i tried to lightly mention something (advocating on behalf of animals) then you instantly attack me in a aggressive manner, then i try to explain what had happened to assess whether or not you misunderstood me or you actually understood what i meant and that you are aware that i meant no harm by what i was saying... though it became quite apparent that you knew that i didn't mean any harshness by it though attacked anyways!!

[FYI once again if you're going to be so pathetic... your missing an apostrophe in "here's" and kinda is not a word, however "kind of" is obviously what you were trying to say].

- The fact that you were being completely illogical and ridiculous - 'horses play along to avoid the alternative of certain death' ?

Makes no sense... really so if you cant ride a horse... are they not put down? (certain death - is the reality)

- Uh, my horses have never seen another horse put down. How could they even know that happens?I have two riding horses and three retirees. Don't you think, the two ridden horses would notice the other three being alive despite not being ridden?

So what your saying is the same as if you have not seen someone murder a human being then you wouldn't know people have murder... false, people communicate with each other as do animals you naive to think that they don't know...

[Once again, you have an error in your work, your missing a spare between 'happens?' and 'I'. And other error... 'horses play along to avoid the alternative of certain death' ? there is meant to be no space between your apostrophe after the word death and before the question mark ]

- Spell. Check.

Clearly you haven't read where I have continuously added a whole new post directly after a post correcting my spelling errors... and to my defence have said on each of those occasions that the auto correct on my phone is crap... the reason the last 2 days haven't had any of these problems is because im using my laptop…

- Think you missed a few wink

Its funny how you think that you don't make any mistakes, yes I'm aware of making errors in my writing and when i have noticed them i have corrected them... little miss not so perfect! I hope you realise now how silly your are acting... i wasn't criticising veggie veronica's writing though you jump at the opportunity to twisted my words...


(Maddie45/Maggie9999/the British Aussie or Veggie Veronica) And really...? liking what Maddie45 said is effectively saying you back what she said... which is actually saying you to are ill educated or you just like to stick together in you stupid little cyber bullying attacks.

Grow up!!
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maddie45 maddie45 VIC Posts: 167
18 20 Dec 2013
Notice that the only person liking your posts is.. oh wait, you.
Anyway, I'm going to stop commenting on this - be the bigger person and all.
peace
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