Vegan and vegetarians

Yeah, criticising people never helps to inspire them to do more anyway.

I find it much more effective to be supportive and encouraging. There is always more that any of us can do... but we also need to celebrate and appreciate what people do already.

its not so much the label, as to what you do.
i say good on you for going vego, it doesn't matter if its oly partically, ieverything helps!

yes, good on you.

i think that at least ur helpin in some way!!!!

i dont hate vegans by the way im just saying my mate went veg and then some one had a go at her so now shes gone back to meat  

What did they say? If someone is commited to veg*n esp for the animals, nothing anyone says should change that. She needs to be strong. I hope she comes around

That makes no sense! If you go vegetarian for animals, you don't turn your back on them.
To be honest. I was vegetarian for four years and ate fish OCASSIONALLY (like one piece with chips three or four times a year). To me, that was fine to say I was vegetarian. Then I joined Animal Liberation and mentioned I ate fish every pale blue moon. My goodness, I got harpooned! Every meeting that woman would say to me "are you off the fish yet?" I hated it, it really annoyed me.

But I stopped completely after that. Then I realised they were all vegan and learnt what it was (I didnt' know what vegan was prior) then I felt guilty for not being vegan. They wouldn't point it out or anything or say "go vegan" but I honestly felt like they were like they were judging me and it really annoyed me at the time, I hated it.

Now I'm grateful. I see nothing wrong with pointing out hypocracy of those who love animals but contribute to such mass suffering. I never really got it (thanks our perverse culture of condoning cruelty to the animals we 'use').  If those people didn't make me feel bad, I'd still be scoffing heaps of dairy, egg and my 'minimal' fish cruelty (which really was minimal).

she went back to eating animals because she thinks its normal she likes to fit in  and hates people givein her crap about something new shes trying

That sucks. Just give her more info on animal cruelty and hopefully she will do it for the animals

the trivial facts don't matter, anyone can be a vegan/vegetarian despite their background.

of course i am on the mind set that one single person can make change so i do not dispute your point of vegetarian still being a successful way to advicate animal rights, but at the end of the day a all vegan and eco friendly lifestyle is the only way to go.

but at the end of the day, every bit counts

oh & if you eat fish you're _not_ a vegetarian