I need advice on milk please!!!

well all i can say is no commercially made milk is cruelty free. Unless you live on a farm and own a cow and a milking the cow by hand it couldn't possible be nice for the cow as all the milk that comes from cows are hooked up the machines. I don't like soy milk but also hated cows milk. The only way i can have it is in my cooking then i can't taste it. With my cereal i have sugar to make it a bit sweeter.

The truth is, there isn't any type of cow's milk that is totally cruelty free - unless of course you have custody of a cow and you can monitor personally it's and it's calf's welfare.

I know you don't even want to think about alternatives, but here's a blog I wrote on the issue: http://www.unleashed.org.au/blog/2010-04/Milk-A-Rather-Sickening-Story

When I first went vegan, I absolutely hate, hate, hated the taste of cow's milk. But when it came down to it, I hated cruelty to animals even more. I couldn't bare to think of the day-old baby calves stripped from their mothers, driven in the freezing dark to the slaughterhouse, destined only for a lonely gun-shot to the head, while hearing its other brothers cry out desperately for their mother's help.

So, I went off all types of milk for a while - both animal and non-animal derived. A while later, I tried a few, and I still hated it. But a while later after that, I found Sanitarium's So Good Lite - I emphasise"Lite"! - and I found it fine over things like cereal and in tea.

I still don't drink it straight - I never drinked milk straight either. But taking it step by step (cooking with it, then having a little over ceral, then in some tea etc) got me use to it. And today I know I'm not financially responsible for maybe one of the most cruel things which happens to animals today.

Whenever you have milk, just imagine the baby calf. It won't take much time to get over it. You'll be right. It's one type of liquid out of a bazzillion others. You really will be fine!

I know you said you didn't want to hear about fake milk, but have you tried fake milk other than soy milk? There are lots of fake milks out there other than soy milk such as almond milk and rice milk. You might find them nicer. Also i can't stand plain soy milk, but i love flavoured soy milk!

soy milk is definitely a way to get used to soy's texture too!

Matt, thanks so much for the advice, trust me, I won't be touching cow's milk disgusts me now. I am having a bad time even seeing it in the supermarket. I wanted to stand there and tell everyone buying it, the realities, just might do it yet. I feel so helpless, this is a world of animal cruelty and I cannot deal with it, it is depressing. God I want to swear!! but you get the point. My son abused me once, when I ate meat, saying to me that all I want to know about is the shiny packages in the meat department, he was right, and that stuck in my head. I have since exposed myself to the slaughter of animals so I never go back to meat again. Why do they protect the public against the realities?  It frustrates me no end.

Im not that keen on 'fake' milks either. Almond milk is not too bad though. I have found it easier to just drop milk all together, as no substitute will ever really be equivalent.

i was the same before i went vegan, hated soymilk
you should give vitasoy "soy milky" a try, seriously its the best soy milk out there

I would be surprised if they even gave you an answer... they prob think all milk is cruelty free...

And just cos a cow walks to the milking bay - doesn't mean they do it happily. They get fed at the same time I believe. I go to work every day - doesn't mean I do it happily.. but days where lunch is provided I'll do almost anything.

I found alternative milks a bit strange at first too, but you really do get used to it and now I really like oat milk on my cereal.