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RebeccaXY RebeccaXY QLD Posts: 71
1 20 Jun 2010
Have you heard about Halal?
One of my friends from school was telling me about it, cuz he has a vegetarian friend (not me, another one wink ), and she was telling him about it.

So I looked it up ... and I could really find much.

What foods have u found that are halal or hareem products?
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RaV3N RaV3N WA Posts: 2152
2 20 Jun 2010
A lot of things these days... because it broadens their sales. Some people will only buy products if they are certified Halal, so putting that logo on almost everything will help sales happy
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RebeccaXY RebeccaXY QLD Posts: 71
3 20 Jun 2010
RaV3N said:
A lot of things these days... because it broadens their sales. Some people will only buy products if they are certified Halal, so putting that logo on almost everything will help sales happy
but isnt halal bad? .. i mean like .. isnt it animal products?
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ckimana ckimana NSW Posts: 2545
4 20 Jun 2010
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RaV3N RaV3N WA Posts: 2152
5 20 Jun 2010
RebeccaXY said:
RaV3N said:
A lot of things these days... because it broadens their sales. Some people will only buy products if they are certified Halal, so putting that logo on almost everything will help sales happy
but isnt halal bad? .. i mean like .. isnt it animal products?
Yes... but I have seen some vegie products with the Halal stamp, again broadening the scope for sales.

I believe the animal is slaughtered in a particular way.
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tarkine tarkine Iran Posts: 296
6 20 Jun 2010
RebeccaXY said:
RaV3N said:
A lot of things these days... because it broadens their sales. Some people will only buy products if they are certified Halal, so putting that logo on almost everything will help sales happy
but isnt halal bad? .. i mean like .. isnt it animal products?
Funny coincidence, I was talking about this tonight with some friends at work, who are Muslims.

In a nutshell, "halal" means that which is "permitted" for Muslims, as opposed to that which is forbidden, or "haram".

Not all halal foods are made from animals, eg. tahini (sesame seed butter) will often be labelled halal because it's a popular food in the Middle East, where most people are Muslims. But just because something isn't labelled halal, doesn't mean that Muslims can't eat it. There are lots of foods that would be halal, but which are not labelled as such, just like there are lots of vegan foods that aren't specifically labelled as vegan. The label is just there to help people identify more easily the foods they can eat according to their beliefs.

It's worth remembering that there are many different interpretations of Islam, and Muslims often disagree about what is permitted, and under what conditions (eg. polygamy, homosexuality, alcohol, etc.) - that said, all forms of pig meat (ham, bacon, pork) are generally considered "haram" (forbidden), no matter how the meat is prepared (I think this is because of a specific reference to swine in the Koran). So you won't find bacon in the McDonalds burgers in Egypt, or elsewhere in the Middle East (including Israel, since Jews don't eat pig meat either).

Other animals may be eaten, but to be "halal" the animal must be blessed as it's being slaughtered. Also, the animal's blood should be drained so that it doesn't "poison" the meat - the worst practice is where a fully conscious animal's throat is slashed and it is left to bleed to death, but many halal abattoirs forbid this as being unnecessarily cruel, and will stun the animal first (of course this is arguably just as cruel).

There is nothing inherently more cruel about the way Muslims live, compared to Christians and other non-Muslims. People of all cultures have exactly the same capacity for both cruelty and compassion... including Buddhists, who are mostly vegetarian - many members of the Khmer Rouge who committed crimes against humanity in Cambodia under the Pol Pot regime were notionally Buddhists, likewise the predominantly Sinhalese government in Sri Lanka (most Sinhalese are also Buddhists) which has committed notorious war crimes and other atrocities against ethnic Tamils in recent times.
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tarkine tarkine Iran Posts: 296
7 20 Jun 2010
On a related note about pigs...

Anyone who has watched Pulp Fiction will remember that Samuel Jackson doesn't eat pigs because they're "filthy animals" (his character in the movie seems to be Christian, with a disturbing tendency to quote the book of Ezekiel as he shoots people).

According to Sam, dogs are just "dirty", but he doesn't eat dog either because dogs have personality, and "personality goes a long way". Now, if he had ever sat down and talked to a pig, he would realise that they have just as much personality as dogs.

I'm glad if people don't eat pigs, whatever the reason. But I'm sure the pigs would appreciate a bit of respect - if we all spent more time rolling in the mud instead of shooting each other in the name of religion, the world would be a more peaceful place.
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Clud Clud VIC Posts: 1559
8 21 Jun 2010
Even alot of gelatine now adays is halal.
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xMISSMONSTERx xMISSMONSTERx WA Posts: 2582
9 21 Jun 2010
tarkine said:
On a related note about pigs...

Anyone who has watched Pulp Fiction will remember that Samuel Jackson doesn't eat pigs because they're "filthy animals" (his character in the movie seems to be Christian, with a disturbing tendency to quote the book of Ezekiel as he shoots people).

According to Sam, dogs are just "dirty", but he doesn't eat dog either because dogs have personality, and "personality goes a long way". Now, if he had ever sat down and talked to a pig, he would realise that they have just as much personality as dogs.

I'm glad if people don't eat pigs, whatever the reason. But I'm sure the pigs would appreciate a bit of respect - if we all spent more time rolling in the mud instead of shooting each other in the name of religion, the world would be a more peaceful place.
Funny that they don't eat pigs because they're dirty... when pigs are actually rather clean animals. And because of the conditions in any slaughter house, no matter the animal, they are all dirty.

All animals have a personality, difference being cats and dogs are given the chance to show theirs. Even fish have personalities..
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Mondayschild Mondayschild WA Posts: 1452
10 21 Jun 2010
I was under the impression that the 'dirty' notion came from not that they were physically dirty but that they (historically) carried parasites in their blood, or something, and it sort of stemmed from there... People used to catch parasites from eating undercooked meat.
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