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Where to get worms for a worm farm from?

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Brendon Brendon NSW Posts: 1212
1 13 Jul 2010
Hi,
I live in an apartment and I dump all my excess produce and wasted food into a large bin I have on my balcony; cover it with Bokashi (it's a fermented thing that breaks down food) and then cover it with a little soil.
I've been doing this for about 3 months and my bin is about 85% capacity. I don't know what I'm going to do with it when it's full (it's almost all soil now as the Bokashi broke everything down) so I've been thinking about adding worms to it since they'll break it down even further and give me even longer before I have to find a place to put this compost (it's really just nutritious soil now).
I live in Canberra and I've called up a whole lot of nurseries and no one has worms!!!
Where do I get them from?? What kind of shops do I go too?

Thanks.
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Mondayschild Mondayschild WA Posts: 1452
2 13 Jul 2010
Legitimate (but potentially silly) question, is worm composting vegan? I had assumed that the compost produced by the worms would be considered an animal by product.
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Brendon Brendon NSW Posts: 1212
3 13 Jul 2010
I consider it vegan because I'm not exploiting the animals.
I know what poisons a worm (what can't go into a worm farm) and these animals are bred specifically to be used by people.
I've looked after worms when I lived with my dad growing up (he still has them) and I put A LOT of energy into them; I loved them.
I don't see what's not vegan about them... They're companion animals to me.
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Etranger Etranger ACT Posts: 53
4 13 Jul 2010
Mondayschild said:
Legitimate (but potentially silly) question, is worm composting vegan? I had assumed that the compost produced by the worms would be considered an animal by product.
An interesting question. I would say it was vegan as long as you are careful to avoid the little wrigglers while shovelling it onto your garden. Worm-castings are a waste product so would be similar to using shed antlers, and exactly like using manure as fertilizer. There may be confinment and exploitation issues but I would sound silly if I tried to argue them
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Brendon Brendon NSW Posts: 1212
5 13 Jul 2010
Etranger said:
Mondayschild said:
Legitimate (but potentially silly) question, is worm composting vegan? I had assumed that the compost produced by the worms would be considered an animal by product.
An interesting question. I would say it was vegan as long as you are careful to avoid the little wrigglers while shovelling it onto your garden. Worm-castings are a waste product so would be similar to using shed antlers, and exactly like using manure as fertilizer. There may be confinment and exploitation issues but I would sound silly if I tried to argue them
Well I've got my worms.
I'm always careful when I've taken the worm castings before to make sure there were no worms/worm eggs in it.
I haven't thought about the confinement thing... That worries me.
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Ellim Ellim United Kingdom Posts: 480
6 13 Jul 2010
BreadmanInAus said:
and these animals are bred specifically to be used by people.
I have a problem with this.  I also have a problem with the fact that the worms are being taken from somewhere and, even though they may be doing their regular wormy thing they're still doing it in a place that you've put them for your benefit.  ie. you're using them for your own gain.  When chickens are producing eggs for human consumption they're being used - it doesn't matter if they are truly free range (as in allowed to be chickens and produce eggs at a normal and appropriate rate) their life is still about producing eggs for human consumption and not about being a chicken.  Similarly, I think if these worms are being brought in to chomp up your compost then their lives are not about being worms.
As for the companion animal argument: I don't expect my cats do anything that I get gain from.  They're there to be cats, and I do what I can to protect them and nourish them but they aren't there for an intrinsic reason.

Sorry.  I think worms for this reason = unvegan.
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Brendon Brendon NSW Posts: 1212
7 13 Jul 2010
EJay said:
BreadmanInAus said:
and these animals are bred specifically to be used by people.
I have a problem with this.  I also have a problem with the fact that the worms are being taken from somewhere and, even though they may be doing their regular wormy thing they're still doing it in a place that you've put them for your benefit.  ie. you're using them for your own gain.  When chickens are producing eggs for human consumption they're being used - it doesn't matter if they are truly free range (as in allowed to be chickens and produce eggs at a normal and appropriate rate) their life is still about producing eggs for human consumption and not about being a chicken.  Similarly, I think if these worms are being brought in to chomp up your compost then their lives are not about being worms.
As for the companion animal argument: I don't expect my cats do anything that I get gain from.  They're there to be cats, and I do what I can to protect them and nourish them but they aren't there for an intrinsic reason.

Sorry.  I think worms for this reason = unvegan.
So... What do I do with them now then?
Let them go?
Where/How?
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Ellim Ellim United Kingdom Posts: 480
8 13 Jul 2010
When I wrote my response, you must have been writing the update at the same time, as it wasn't there when I read the topic originally.

BreadmanInAus said:
So... What do I do with them now then?
Let them go?
Where/How?
Seeing as you already have them I personally would keep them.  It seems from your posts that you know how to look after them appropriately, so I think you should (and, not feel bad about it!)  There is a huge difference between philosophical reasoning and practicable acts - and I think it would now be more harmful to let the worms go than to look after them.

I seem to have talked around in a circle, but my (very strange) conclusion is this:
-having the worms = unvegan
-seeing as you have the worms already, it's less-vegan to let them go and more-vegan to look after them.

Plus, having said all of that - I'm only talking about what 'vegan' means for me and my life.  You may well come to different conclusions all together (and that's one of the things that makes life so wonderful!)
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Compostkitty Compostkitty NSW Posts: 780
9 13 Jul 2010
BreadmanInAus said:
Hi,
I live in an apartment and I dump all my excess produce and wasted food into a large bin I have on my balcony; cover it with Bokashi (it's a fermented thing that breaks down food) and then cover it with a little soil.
I've been doing this for about 3 months and my bin is about 85% capacity. I don't know what I'm going to do with it when it's full (it's almost all soil now as the Bokashi broke everything down) so I've been thinking about adding worms to it since they'll break it down even further and give me even longer before I have to find a place to put this compost (it's really just nutritious soil now).
I live in Canberra and I've called up a whole lot of nurseries and no one has worms!!!
Where do I get them from?? What kind of shops do I go too?

Thanks.
community garden? im not sure how they work but its somewhere you can put your soil?
or family members/friends might like great soil for gardens
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Brendon Brendon NSW Posts: 1212
10 13 Jul 2010
Compostkitty said:
BreadmanInAus said:
Hi,
I live in an apartment and I dump all my excess produce and wasted food into a large bin I have on my balcony; cover it with Bokashi (it's a fermented thing that breaks down food) and then cover it with a little soil.
I've been doing this for about 3 months and my bin is about 85% capacity. I don't know what I'm going to do with it when it's full (it's almost all soil now as the Bokashi broke everything down) so I've been thinking about adding worms to it since they'll break it down even further and give me even longer before I have to find a place to put this compost (it's really just nutritious soil now).
I live in Canberra and I've called up a whole lot of nurseries and no one has worms!!!
Where do I get them from?? What kind of shops do I go too?

Thanks.
community garden? im not sure how they work but its somewhere you can put your soil?
or family members/friends might like great soil for gardens
We don't have a community garden unfortunately and Strata won't approve it. The most we got was a community lawn that's treated with heavy doses of pesticides so no insects live there and it makes your skin prickle and hurt to touch the grass. I know it looks "pretty" bu it makes me cry... The grass made Patches my companion cat sick when he walked on it.
Two family members want it but they're not willing to transport it from my place to theirs.
I'm just going to use the worms for now then when it reaches 100% capacity take the worms out and put them in a separate bucket (about 80% of them) and then see if I can find a place in a local park (I'll carry the bin down) to dig a hole and put them in.
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