Animal Technician- From petstore keeper to zookeeper to conservationist
Thats my goal.
I'm sorry - but in what way do zookeepers, let alone petstore owners help animals?!
being either one of those, you have control over what happens to those animals, when they are under your power. No evil zookeepers. it is the people who BUY from petstores that are the real problem...
A zookeeper doesn't have complete control over what happens, they have no voice in saying whether these animals are caged or not - I'm sure a lot of zookeepers have great care for animals, but most won't be vegan, they still think animals are ours to use. And a pet store is specifically a place that sells animals, animals shouldn't be sold at all, whether dead or alive. If you care about animals I just don't think your dream career should be in that field at all. Yes the people are the problem, but to own a pet store is running one completely, if you don't own one that's one less pet store.
If you like dogs or cats work in a shelter, if you like wild animals, work in rehabilitation centres.
Im going to work at an Animal Sanctuary anyways.
But in my eyes, for now, let the zoos be, lets shut down slaughter houses, then from there work our way through the food chain.
Firstly, I think, even if we don't shut them down today, we must spread the philosophy that animals don't belong as ours, it doesn't matter whether they're going to be slaughtered or not. Secondly, this isn't the food chain, this is enslavement of all other species, the way different raced people have been used as slaves. Imagine if I put a few black people in enclosures for education purposes... Hmmm, let me be, at least I'm not killing them.
I always wanted to be a zoologist... until I started sucking at science.
With rescuing animals there wouldn't be much pay involved, if any. Unless of course you were a ranger with the RSPCA. But from what I hear it's not the easiest job to land... and you need to be a pretty strong person, emotionally and mentally, to deal with the idiots you would see on a day to day basis.
I don't know if there is an "animal law" degree as such, but I know there is an "environmental law" degree. That could get you close to animals, but prob more nature.
Some zooolgists end up in the animal testing buisness so b careful lol
If I had ever gone down this path there would have been no way in hell I would ever test on an animal. No matter how much I was paid! I wanted to get into it to study wild animals in Africa or something cool like that. I kinda regret not focusing more in high school and ending up in a trade, even though it's an awesome fun trade... but researching animals and having my own show on Nat Geo would have been so much more awesome!!!
There's a career path... Nat Geo docos! Everyone loves watching these, veg*n or not.
Animal Technician- From petstore keeper to zookeeper to conservationist
Thats my goal.
I'm sorry - but in what way do zookeepers, let alone petstore owners help animals?!
being either one of those, you have control over what happens to those animals, when they are under your power. No evil zookeepers. it is the people who BUY from petstores that are the real problem...
A zookeeper doesn't have complete control over what happens, they have no voice in saying whether these animals are caged or not - I'm sure a lot of zookeepers have great care for animals, but most won't be vegan, they still think animals are ours to use. And a pet store is specifically a place that sells animals, animals shouldn't be sold at all, whether dead or alive. If you care about animals I just don't think your dream career should be in that field at all. Yes the people are the problem, but to own a pet store is running one completely, if you don't own one that's one less pet store.
If you like dogs or cats work in a shelter, if you like wild animals, work in rehabilitation centres.
Im going to work at an Animal Sanctuary anyways.
But in my eyes, for now, let the zoos be, lets shut down slaughter houses, then from there work our way through the food chain.
Firstly, I think, even if we don't shut them down today, we must spread the philosophy that animals don't belong as ours, it doesn't matter whether they're going to be slaughtered or not. Secondly, this isn't the food chain, this is enslavement of all other species, the way different raced people have been used as slaves. Imagine if I put a few black people in enclosures for education purposes... Hmmm, let me be, at least I'm not killing them.
I do understand completely where you are coming from ,but for me, I dont understand how animals dont benefit.They live healthy lives! I will go to the Australia's Zoo in september and tell you if they look sad. I do understand the cage things and all but they are safer in the zoo than anywhere else.
When I say chain I mean, we work down from slaughterhouses, coz I do know that zookeepers do have to help kill an animal humanely but they normally love animals and they dont like a few hundred a day. Unlike the slaughter houses.
Totally understand where you're coming from Azz - but, I don't know if it is so much the treatment of the animal - whether it be great or horrid.
Instead rather I think the problem is the notion that we have the "right" to put an animal in a zoo - or wherever else for that matter.
Animal Technician- From petstore keeper to zookeeper to conservationist
Thats my goal.
I'm sorry - but in what way do zookeepers, let alone petstore owners help animals?!
being either one of those, you have control over what happens to those animals, when they are under your power. No evil zookeepers. it is the people who BUY from petstores that are the real problem...
A zookeeper doesn't have complete control over what happens, they have no voice in saying whether these animals are caged or not - I'm sure a lot of zookeepers have great care for animals, but most won't be vegan, they still think animals are ours to use. And a pet store is specifically a place that sells animals, animals shouldn't be sold at all, whether dead or alive. If you care about animals I just don't think your dream career should be in that field at all. Yes the people are the problem, but to own a pet store is running one completely, if you don't own one that's one less pet store.
If you like dogs or cats work in a shelter, if you like wild animals, work in rehabilitation centres.
Im going to work at an Animal Sanctuary anyways.
But in my eyes, for now, let the zoos be, lets shut down slaughter houses, then from there work our way through the food chain.
Firstly, I think, even if we don't shut them down today, we must spread the philosophy that animals don't belong as ours, it doesn't matter whether they're going to be slaughtered or not. Secondly, this isn't the food chain, this is enslavement of all other species, the way different raced people have been used as slaves. Imagine if I put a few black people in enclosures for education purposes... Hmmm, let me be, at least I'm not killing them.
I do understand completely where you are coming from ,but for me, I dont understand how animals dont benefit.They live healthy lives! I will go to the Australia's Zoo in september and tell you if they look sad. I do understand the cage things and all but they are safer in the zoo than anywhere else.
When I say chain I mean, we work down from slaughterhouses, coz I do know that zookeepers do have to help kill an animal humanely but they normally love animals and they dont like a few hundred a day. Unlike the slaughter houses.
I see your point, I once felt the same way. I was going to go to the zoo to take photos but I really want to avoid giving them money. I don't think safeness is an issue, the wild can never be safe but at least an animal there can live the way they're meant to, and they won't be bored to death. I think zoos are extremely detrimental for an animal's mental state.
Sorry, I thought you meant chain as in, well you know what I meant ha. I do think slaughterhouses are barbaric of course, but we can't forget the animals used for eggs and dairy, animals used for entertainment, testing and the ones in captivity. Every kind of animal exploitation just breeds violence towards other animals. Hence we cannot ignore any kind of animal cruelty and label some as less cruel.
Totally understand where you're coming from Azz - but, I don't know if it is so much the treatment of the animal - whether it be great or horrid.
Instead rather I think the problem is the notion that we have the "right" to put an animal in a zoo - or wherever else for that matter.
I think that wether we enjoy it or not, we have assumed the role of custodians of our planets future. Zoo's now are the only hope for many animal species to survive beyond the next 50 years...
We've come along way since Roman times in our insatiable curiosity for the multitude of other creatures who co-inhabit this planet with us. We've gone from pitting wild animals against human opponents in those days, to the burgeoning and flourishing of Animal rights and awareness in advance society in the present day... It wont be long before most of the worlds advanced population sees things the way we do!
I think having the "right" to keep an animal in captivity is an interesting prospect... Did you know that there are recorded species' of ants that have domesticated aphids, and have been doing so for thousands of years? The aphids have been selectively bred to the point that they are no longer able to survive without their Ant 'keepers' .. (Btw, they don't kill the Aphids, they eat a sweet secretion that the aphids produce! )
Do Ants have a right to keep their Aphids? Some ant species also take other ants prisoner and then keep them as slaves... Do they have a right to do that?
You could think about it forever really...
I think that Zoo's are an indispensable learning tool.. They just need to be brought up to a standard where the animal is leading just as good a life that they would in the wild...
well, first of all zoo's like the adelaide zoo are shitty (to me at least) and i think if were going to keep breeding them back so they dont die out of extinction then more places like monarto are better, they get to run free and have more then 20 meters of soace to walk around in..
and not only is it better for the animals but even if you still would like to see an animal up close for learning then its great too..they animals arent forced to be looked at, hanging around all the noisy screaming children. if they wish, they can walk off. you see?
i dont think zoo's are at all nessesary, not like how they are now at least.
second of all..we are human, what differs us from other species is that we are capable of having a concience. we know we dont need animals like that. but ants would be doing it simply by instinct. you see?
it is the people who BUY from petstores that are the real problem...
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