Country wide rally!

Actually it was my quote...and...so you work in a petshop and don't like ALVs leafleting (you must be referring to Oscar's Law leafleting that have targeted your store due to its use of puppy farms?)...and you think you can do better than all of us even though you've never done anything before and therefore are not aware of the effectiveness of any of our stalls or leafleting sessions.
LOL well as arrogant as you are coming across I look forward to seeing what you come up with.

Oh I see.. You work at my pet shop do you!? You know where we get our puppys from do you?
I absolutly agree puppy farm should be destroyed. But get to know the people who are doing the right thing.
Frankly any person who breeds dogs and gains some sort of profit out of it to me is a puppy farm.
Breeders are just as to blaim here.
I have customers who have had breeders tell them puppys should be fed weatbix and milk!
I have studied pet nutrition. I passed with distinction.
That's not what we feed puppys!

Who's the arrogant one here who talks down on the the one with lesser experience?
You must feel very proud of yourself.

F**k people! Can we all stop giving each other shit on these posts!?
Like what the hell were working for the same thing! Yet we sit there and tell each other were all f**king wrong!

You judge me based on my exp. Yet I don't recall telling anyone anything about what I've done.
I've been activallt involved since 2000 I'm 23 I have alot to still learn.
And yes I've done countless leafleting..

People have come to this site to work together! Yet based on our ways of personal protest were told were incorrect.
There is no right or wrong to protest. We just have our own thoughts on the matter.
Let's Grab those thoughts and mix them together!
How can you fight pet shops with out the experience of someone who knows how the inside works!?
This has allways been just a stepping stone for me in order to learn. And use that to my advantage.

1. Tell us where the puppies in your pet shop come from then, so we don't assume.

2. Nobody's judging you on your experience. We're judging you on the fact that 99% of of your posts are aggressive towards other people and quite obviously designed to provoke. There's always going to be people who disagree on this forum but the rest of us can seem to be civil to one another, whereas you can't.

3. Nobody has told you your ways of protesting are incorrect. On the contrary you keep putting down the hard work ALV and AA do and instead sing the praises of not even half-formed ideas you have. Put them into practice or at least outline them for us so we can HELP you.

4. I offered to help and you ignored me in order to keep arguing. That tells me something.

Just please have a bit more respect for the people here.

wow... some people just love to be rude, nothing wrong with a good argument about the things we're passionate about. But we all need to be respectful!

I wish I could like Kirrilly's post 100 times.

I'm not arguing with you I was just contributing to the conversation (as far as I know ALV have only protested pet shops about the puppy farm issue) if I assumed wrong about something you are free to tell me so in a non-abusive manner.
I did say your posts come across as arrogant and that is because they do- whether you mean them to or not.
You need to stop attacking us for merely wanting more information about you and your goals since right now it just seems very abstract. You aren't going to get much help by alienating everyone. If you just address our queries instead of attacking us for having them, things would run alot smoother  

I have to say I agree with this.
There's been heaps more arguments, as opposed to debates, in the past couple of weeks, and Gabby's been active in almost all of them.
Everyone here DOES care about animals, and we all have the common goal of wanting to stop animal suffering, we are just trying to establish the best/most effective way to do so before we dive in head first.

Majority of the dogs are from irrisponible pet owners who don't desex thier pets.
Or people who can't find homes for the pupps.
I have worked with dogs from farms.
As I said inside information is very important.

I don't think you relised that my self and the awesome dude from ALV have decided to talk away from this forum and talk about our ideas.
I actuay do respect what people have to say. If your missing that then there really isent much I can do. With out a tone of voice, with out facial expression you are free to interpret what I write how ever you like.

This whole time I have just said. Give it a try.. To have oh that won't work, that won't work.
So what if it don't work!? What difference does it make!?
The point Is we tryed!
You say my idea won't work. The thing is flyers are not reaching out either.

I'm on an iPhone also so I don't see all posts.
No one Will do it?
Ok I'll do something else. Just thought it would be cool to get the whole country together.
I'm moving to BBK next year to get involved with conservation against poaching and black market.
I'm looking forward to that experience.

I feel like maybe Gabby just had a boost of energy or something and just wants to desperately do something. To me, it seems like Gabby just watched Earthlings and is really pissed off at the cruelty involved in the meat industry, therefore really really pumped up. Lol, but that's how I read the posts  

I never said it won't work. I don't know what IT is!

It's just funny cause I feel like that towards me too.
I'm not trying to attack anyone. Never was that my intention, yet I feel I'm being attacked by many of you too..
The person where the debate branched from 'breadman' dude in the first place. We have even decided to talk and work together our side of this chat.
I would have thought that would show people I'm not just arrguing for the sake of arrguing.
I would like us all to work together.
And I am very sorry if people feel like I have been rude or abusive as that was never my intention.