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Vegetarians/ Vegans that cook meat

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..1 ..1 TAS Posts: 2265
21 21 Jan 2011
taylorpaige said:
Maggie said:
carinaforkeeps said:
Yvan said:
knowing they die because of vegans saddens me
This is extremely insulting.
I agree, I'm 16, I can't afford to put my cats on vegan diets, does this mean I'm a bad person and I should give them up? I think I'd rather kill myself.
agreed.
and p.s., i didn't like your post cause i want you to kill yourself or anything. x)
i promise. happy
i agree though, i'm 17, and i wouldn't be able to afford it, even with a job.
I wouldn't kill myself, it's just my way of saying I'd never give up my cats, or my dog. I love them too much. happy
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Contreras Contreras NSW Posts: 349
22 21 Jan 2011
It's not that I reuse to take care of a meat eaters it's thart I have to find these animals given away I haven't been in a position were someone approached me with a cat and dog needing to be recused but in that situation that would be raised vegan.

It's not meant to be insulting coming to this forum I didn't think other vegans still fed animals meat I assumed they would be on or changing into a vegan diet considering all the success and setting up of those companies. I personally see it as turning a blind eye and hate too see more animals dieing for humans to keep pets, it saddens me to see it on this forum since it was unexpected and as insulting as you may find it that's just how I feel about animals, I don't think they should be killed for anything related to humans including pets and I think cats and dogs can be placed on vegan diets but even if they couldn't I would prefer less dogs and cats to be born then the hundreds of animals that have to die for them sad
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devotchkadebones devotchkadebones VIC Posts: 91
23 21 Jan 2011
Maggie said:
I agree, I'm 16, I can't afford to put my cats on vegan diets, does this mean I'm a bad person and I should give them up? I think I'd rather kill myself.
It's more than a matter of cost. I could afford it, and I choose not to, because anatomically speaking, I don't believe my cats will thrive on a vegan diet. They might live, yes, but at what cost to their health?


Yvan said:
It's not meant to be insulting coming to this forum I didn't think other vegans still fed animals meat I assumed they would be on or changing into a vegan diet considering all the success and setting up of those companies. I personally see it as turning a blind eye and hate too see more animals dieing for humans to keep pets, it saddens me to see it on this forum since it was unexpected and as insulting as you may find it that's just how I feel about animals, I don't think they should be killed for anything related to humans including pets and I think cats and dogs can be placed on vegan diets but even if they couldn't I would prefer less dogs and cats to be born then the hundreds of animals that have to die for them sad
In the long run, you're going to have a tough time convincing people who do a lot of good in the area of animal rights and/or welfare that they are being selfish by feeding their pets meat.

Yes, cats and dogs are being over-bred, but that's a different situation entirely. You should be arguing for the abolition of all pet shops, and for programs like TNRs to be put in place instead, rather than villifying people who feed their pets what they anatomically need.
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24 21 Jan 2011
devotchkadebones said:
Maggie said:
I agree, I'm 16, I can't afford to put my cats on vegan diets, does this mean I'm a bad person and I should give them up? I think I'd rather kill myself.
It's more than a matter of cost. I could afford it, and I choose not to, because anatomically speaking, I don't believe my cats will thrive on a vegan diet. They might live, yes, but at what cost to their health?
If my cats went vegan I would only be feeding them that Veganpet stuff. Healthwise I think that's pretty good. But there's no way I'd feed them any other form of vegan diet.
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Contreras Contreras NSW Posts: 349
25 21 Jan 2011
devotchkadebones said:
Maggie said:
I agree, I'm 16, I can't afford to put my cats on vegan diets, does this mean I'm a bad person and I should give them up? I think I'd rather kill myself.
It's more than a matter of cost. I could afford it, and I choose not to, because anatomically speaking, I don't believe my cats will thrive on a vegan diet. They might live, yes, but at what cost to their health?
Well from the success it sounds like they are just as healthy if not more because of the health problems with factory meats you might as well try it if your cats did seem to be unhealthy i doubt weeks would of done large long term damage.
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devotchkadebones devotchkadebones VIC Posts: 91
26 21 Jan 2011
Maggie said:
If my cats went vegan I would only be feeding them that Veganpet stuff. Healthwise I think that's pretty good. But there's no way I'd feed them any other form of vegan diet.
I understand; I was just elucidating my position.

Yvan said:
Well from the success it sounds like they are just as healthy if not more because of the health problems with factory meats you might as well try it if your cats did seem to be unhealthy i doubt weeks would of done large long term damage.
I have stated repeatedly that I do not feed my cats factory farmed food. I have also stated in no unclear terms that I do not want your advice in regards to my own cats.

Is that difficult to understand?
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devotchkadebones devotchkadebones VIC Posts: 91
27 21 Jan 2011
Double post. Sorry!
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..1 ..1 TAS Posts: 2265
28 21 Jan 2011
devotchkadebones said:
Maggie said:
If my cats went vegan I would only be feeding them that Veganpet stuff. Healthwise I think that's pretty good. But there's no way I'd feed them any other form of vegan diet.
I understand; I was just elucidating my position.
I was agreeing with you. happy I think a vegan diet is a bit too risky. While I wish other animals didn't have to die for my pets, I'm not prepared to make my cat suffer through an unnatural and unhealthy diet.

But veganpet has been proven safe, it's just a bit expensive. sad
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devotchkadebones devotchkadebones VIC Posts: 91
29 21 Jan 2011
Maggie said:
I was agreeing with you. happy I think a vegan diet is a bit too risky. While I wish other animals didn't have to die for my pets, I'm not prepared to make my cat suffer through an unnatural and unhealthy diet.

But veganpet has been proven safe, it's just a bit expensive. sad
Have Veganpet undergone any independent studies? I'm not asking to be flip, I'm actually interested. By that I mean scientifically sound studies undertaken by someone who is not related to the maker of it, and has no vested interest in it.
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Contreras Contreras NSW Posts: 349
30 21 Jan 2011
devotchkadebones said:
Maggie said:
I was agreeing with you. happy I think a vegan diet is a bit too risky. While I wish other animals didn't have to die for my pets, I'm not prepared to make my cat suffer through an unnatural and unhealthy diet.

But veganpet has been proven safe, it's just a bit expensive. sad
Have Veganpet undergone any independent studies? I'm not asking to be flip, I'm actually interested. By that I mean scientifically sound studies undertaken by someone who is not related to the maker of it, and has no vested interest in it.
I think brennanman would be the one to ask because I think his affiliated with vegan pet.
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