Have Veganpet undergone any independent studies? I'm not asking to be flip, I'm actually interested. By that I mean scientifically sound studies undertaken by someone who is not related to the maker of it, and has no vested interest in it.
I don't actually know, but some people here have vegan animals who's diets are based upon vegan pet. Have a look at their website, there's heaps of info there. http://veganpet.com.au/articles/
I sampled the dry food, my dog loved it, and one of my cats loved it, but my other cat won't touch anything that's vegan. And if she doesn't like vegan food, I'm not going to force her to eat it.
I think brennanman would be the one to ask because I think his affiliated with vegan pet.
Okay, thank you.
http://veganpet.com.au/articles/?page_id=10 For anyone who believes that this proves conclusively that Veganpet is safe - it doesn't. The study conducted was 20 days in length, which is not nearly enough time for serious dietary deficiencies that can be fatal to appear.
I also find their Veganpet shampoo horrifying (http://veganpet.com.au/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=3&products_id=5). Tea tree oil is known to be toxic to quite a lot of cats, and should not be anywhere near them in general. If they're selling a shampoo that has an ingredient that can cause toxicity in cats, I would not trust them in other areas.
Maggie said:
I don't actually know, but some people here have vegan animals who's diets are based upon vegan pet. Have a look at their website, there's heaps of info there. http://veganpet.com.au/articles/
I sampled the dry food, my dog loved it, and one of my cats loved it, but my other cat won't touch anything that's vegan. And if she doesn't like vegan food, I'm not going to force her to eat it.
Thank you
I think one of my cats would eat it, but she eats everything. Another tends to eat food that is intended for humans, but she's very picky (like only Nuttelex, and corn chips). And the last one, well, she won't touch anything but meat.
http://veganpet.com.au/articles/?page_id=10 For anyone who believes that this proves conclusively that Veganpet is safe - it doesn't. The study conducted was 20 days in length, which is not nearly enough time for serious dietary deficiencies that can be fatal to appear.
I wouldn't be sure, but I'd like to hear from anyone on this forum with a pet on that diet and how they are doing.
I wouldn't be sure, but I'd like to hear from anyoneon this forum with a pet on that diet and how they are doing.
You wouldn't be sure that 20 days isn't long enough? It's not. Cats don't develop a biotin deficiency from consuming too much avidin (an enzyme found in raw egg) within 20 days, but it's a serious deficiency.
Also, you might be interested in hearing anecdotal evidence, but I am asking specifically for independent scientific studies at the moment.
I wouldn't be sure, but I'd like to hear from anyoneon this forum with a pet on that diet and how they are doing.
You wouldn't be sure that 20 days isn't long enough? It's not. Cats don't develop a biotin deficiency from consuming too much avidin (an enzyme found in raw egg) within 20 days, but it's a serious deficiency.
Also, you might be interested in hearing anecdotal evidence, but I am asking specifically for independent scientific studies at the moment.
I meant that I wouldn't be sure if the product was totally untrustworthy because of the limited study, I'd first like to hear on people with pets that either tried or have their pets on a full vegan diet with this company, maybe try looking for research on American vegan pet products because I'd assume they would of been running longer then veganpet.
I wouldn't be sure, but I'd like to hear from anyoneon this forum with a pet on that diet and how they are doing.
Unfortunately, without sufficient biochemical knowledge and the ability to conduct urinalysis and blood tests, the most information one would be able to provide is "It doesn't kill cats instantly" and "It doesn't immediately cause adverse behavioral effects".
In addition, without a significant sample size covering a range of breeds (and 'types' of DSH cats), there is no way to determine whether the result is due to nutritional value of Veganpet food or due to the metabolic curiosities of the pet itself.
Currently out ATM but could someone see if their has been other company studies, international perhaps?
I found a peer-reviewed study in the Journal of the American Veterinary Medical Association, which, tellingly, was funded by Nestlé Purina. In addition, one of the authors is a member the Nestlé Purina Nutritional Advisory Council. Unfortunately, due to the rather incestuous links with a pet food giant which clearly disregards the nutritional requirements of cats (just look at the amount of cereals in their cat food), the validity of the study is doubtful.
Currently out ATM but could someone see if their has been other company studies, international perhaps?
I found a peer-reviewed study in the Journal of the American Veterinary Medical Association, which, tellingly, was funded by Nestlé Purina. In addition, one of the authors is a member the Nestlé Purina Nutritional Advisory Council. Unfortunately, due to the rather incestuous links with a pet food giant which clearly disregards the nutritional requirements of cats (just look at the amount of cereals in their cat food).
I would never cook it for anyone. If they are eating with me and insist I cook then they get what I make.
On the other side, I have a pet dog who does eat meat, and I feed him. He is rescued at a pretty old age, so converting him would be hard. I have given him Vegan food, and he does like most of it, but sometimes he doesn't touch it at all, and I don't want him to go hungry. If I had gotten him as a puppy well that would be another story.
