Really Jesse??? I always thought you were a real animal person but I can totally understand what you mean about the suffering
Don't get me wrong, I like animals. I suppose I wanted to emphasise the fact that my reasoning for being vegan had little to do with liking animals and more to do with disliking suffering. I think there's a common misconception that being veg*n is just for those who have a particular affinity for animals or don't want to see cute animals being killed. If people see it this way, then it's easy to dismiss as something for other people, but not necessary for me to do. But the point is, virtually everyone thinks suffering is bad, so it really shouldn't matter if they like animals or not - going veg still makes sense.
I'd say I have probably become more fond of animals and taken a greater interest in them as a result of going vegan. I think you see them in a different way, when you acknowledge they have their own interests and choose not to use them for your interests.
Are you buddhist?
"Those who wish to pet and baby wild animals "love" them. But those who respect their natures and wish to let them live normal lives, love them more"
Really Jesse??? I always thought you were a real animal person but I can totally understand what you mean about the suffering
Don't get me wrong, I like animals. I suppose I wanted to emphasise the fact that my reasoning for being vegan had little to do with liking animals and more to do with disliking suffering. I think there's a common misconception that being veg*n is just for those who have a particular affinity for animals or don't want to see cute animals being killed. If people see it this way, then it's easy to dismiss as something for other people, but not necessary for me to do. But the point is, virtually everyone thinks suffering is bad, so it really shouldn't matter if they like animals or not - going veg still makes sense.
I'd say I have probably become more fond of animals and taken a greater interest in them as a result of going vegan. I think you see them in a different way, when you acknowledge they have their own interests and choose not to use them for your interests.
Dude, totally understand where you're coming from. I've met a few veg*n peeps that aren't that crazy about animals but do care deeply about their plight. I agree, people I've met have often treated veg*nism and animal loving as synonymous. Then there are those who go veg*n for health and environmental reasons without really giving a rat's bottom about animals.
I did not mean that not being an animal person was a bad thing, I think that being veg or vegan is fantastic no matter what your motivators are I was just a bit surprised because I have never really spoken to a vegan who wasn't an animal nut...but then again there are not many vegans where we live so thankfully there is unleashed so we can broaden our horizens on the whole issue
Really Jesse??? I always thought you were a real animal person but I can totally understand what you mean about the suffering
Don't get me wrong, I like animals. I suppose I wanted to emphasise the fact that my reasoning for being vegan had little to do with liking animals and more to do with disliking suffering. I think there's a common misconception that being veg*n is just for those who have a particular affinity for animals or don't want to see cute animals being killed. If people see it this way, then it's easy to dismiss as something for other people, but not necessary for me to do. But the point is, virtually everyone thinks suffering is bad, so it really shouldn't matter if they like animals or not - going veg still makes sense.
I'd say I have probably become more fond of animals and taken a greater interest in them as a result of going vegan. I think you see them in a different way, when you acknowledge they have their own interests and choose not to use them for your interests.
Are you buddhist?
"Those who wish to pet and baby wild animals "love" them. But those who respect their natures and wish to let them live normal lives, love them more"
Why would loving animals make me a Buddhist??? Having a love and respect for animals is not a religion it is just a part of who you are
Really Jesse??? I always thought you were a real animal person but I can totally understand what you mean about the suffering
Don't get me wrong, I like animals. I suppose I wanted to emphasise the fact that my reasoning for being vegan had little to do with liking animals and more to do with disliking suffering. I think there's a common misconception that being veg*n is just for those who have a particular affinity for animals or don't want to see cute animals being killed. If people see it this way, then it's easy to dismiss as something for other people, but not necessary for me to do. But the point is, virtually everyone thinks suffering is bad, so it really shouldn't matter if they like animals or not - going veg still makes sense.
I'd say I have probably become more fond of animals and taken a greater interest in them as a result of going vegan. I think you see them in a different way, when you acknowledge they have their own interests and choose not to use them for your interests.
Are you buddhist?
"Those who wish to pet and baby wild animals "love" them. But those who respect their natures and wish to let them live normal lives, love them more"
Why would loving animals make me a Buddhist??? Having a love and respect for animals is not a religion it is just a part of who you are
Sorry not you, I was asking Jesse.
Just because of his emphasis regarding suffering I was just curious. It's not a bad thing, buddhism is cool IMO
If loving animals makes you buddhist then I am buddhist too
Really Jesse??? I always thought you were a real animal person but I can totally understand what you mean about the suffering
Don't get me wrong, I like animals. I suppose I wanted to emphasise the fact that my reasoning for being vegan had little to do with liking animals and more to do with disliking suffering. I think there's a common misconception that being veg*n is just for those who have a particular affinity for animals or don't want to see cute animals being killed. If people see it this way, then it's easy to dismiss as something for other people, but not necessary for me to do. But the point is, virtually everyone thinks suffering is bad, so it really shouldn't matter if they like animals or not - going veg still makes sense.
I'd say I have probably become more fond of animals and taken a greater interest in them as a result of going vegan. I think you see them in a different way, when you acknowledge they have their own interests and choose not to use them for your interests.
Are you buddhist?
"Those who wish to pet and baby wild animals "love" them. But those who respect their natures and wish to let them live normal lives, love them more"
In my opinion it should not be up to us who lives and who dies. Why are we deciding whether a fellow creature's life is that much "lower" than ours that we have the "right" to take it from them?
That and for those who are religious (I'm not), who are we to be playing god and deciding who lives and who dies?
That is two of hundreds of points I belive count towards vegetarian and veganism.
Really Jesse??? I always thought you were a real animal person but I can totally understand what you mean about the suffering
Don't get me wrong, I like animals. I suppose I wanted to emphasise the fact that my reasoning for being vegan had little to do with liking animals and more to do with disliking suffering. I think there's a common misconception that being veg*n is just for those who have a particular affinity for animals or don't want to see cute animals being killed. If people see it this way, then it's easy to dismiss as something for other people, but not necessary for me to do. But the point is, virtually everyone thinks suffering is bad, so it really shouldn't matter if they like animals or not - going veg still makes sense.
I'd say I have probably become more fond of animals and taken a greater interest in them as a result of going vegan. I think you see them in a different way, when you acknowledge they have their own interests and choose not to use them for your interests.
Are you buddhist?
"Those who wish to pet and baby wild animals "love" them. But those who respect their natures and wish to let them live normal lives, love them more"
Why would loving animals make me a Buddhist??? Having a love and respect for animals is not a religion it is just a part of who you are
Sorry not you, I was asking Jesse.
Just because of his emphasis regarding suffering I was just curious. It's not a bad thing, buddhism is cool IMO
If loving animals makes you buddhist then I am buddhist too
LOL that's cool I wasn't sure if it was meant for me or Jesse. I agree, a lot of aspects about buddhism are really cool and I know that they respect animals immensely
Really Jesse??? I always thought you were a real animal person but I can totally understand what you mean about the suffering
Don't get me wrong, I like animals. I suppose I wanted to emphasise the fact that my reasoning for being vegan had little to do with liking animals and more to do with disliking suffering. I think there's a common misconception that being veg*n is just for those who have a particular affinity for animals or don't want to see cute animals being killed. If people see it this way, then it's easy to dismiss as something for other people, but not necessary for me to do. But the point is, virtually everyone thinks suffering is bad, so it really shouldn't matter if they like animals or not - going veg still makes sense.
I'd say I have probably become more fond of animals and taken a greater interest in them as a result of going vegan. I think you see them in a different way, when you acknowledge they have their own interests and choose not to use them for your interests.
Are you buddhist?
"Those who wish to pet and baby wild animals "love" them. But those who respect their natures and wish to let them live normal lives, love them more"
In my opinion it should not be up to us who lives and who dies. Why are we deciding whether a fellow creature's life is that much "lower" than ours that we have the "right" to take it from them?
That and for those who are religious (I'm not), who are we to be playing god and deciding who lives and who dies?
That is two of hundreds of points I belive count towards vegetarian and veganism.
I could not agree more There are numerous reasons why people go veg or vegan and they are all valid. As long as it results in less cruelty and suffering for innocent creatures then it has to be a good thing
but I can totally understand what you mean about the suffering 
There are numerous reasons why people go veg or vegan and they are all valid. As long as it results in less cruelty and suffering for innocent creatures then it has to be a good thing 
