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Milk Prices

Will the impact they have on the dairy industry affect the dairy cows?

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Daniel5 Daniel5 VIC Posts: 93
11 11 Feb 2011
quote number 2 is where it is written
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Daniel5 Daniel5 VIC Posts: 93
12 11 Feb 2011
and all im asking for is where you have read or heard this suggestion from.  The price of milk actually is just one factor on whether bobby calves are reared or not.

Others are

Demand for live export dairy heifers to Russia - China -  Mexico have a huge bearing on dairy heifer calves being reared

The price of Beef Stock also has a large bearing currently Beef stock are at record highs so most  Beef/Dairy X calves are being raised as well as alot of Friesian Bull calves these calves are grown out for 1-3 yr before being processed
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xMISSMONSTERx xMISSMONSTERx WA Posts: 2582
13 11 Feb 2011
Daniel5 said:
quote number 2 is where it is written
"Some farmers are also saying that the low 'value' put on milk makes it even more difficult for them to demand higher prices for their products - meaning it's less and less likely that they'll be able to invest in animal welfare (like, raising 'bobby calves'??). But since the practice of killing unwanted bobby calves has been occurring for centuries, I highly doubt this is going to change any time soon. And really, given the way milk is 'produced', I doubt that it ever can.
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So now you read it, and tell me exactly where Karen states that farmers have said they'll reduce the welfare to make up the costs.

Stop putting words in our mouths.
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Daniel5 Daniel5 VIC Posts: 93
14 11 Feb 2011
She states farmers have said that that low values for milk will mean they are less likely to invest in animal welfare
im not putting words into her mouth this is exactly what is written.

All im asking for is where she gets this statement from
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xMISSMONSTERx xMISSMONSTERx WA Posts: 2582
15 11 Feb 2011
Daniel5 said:
She states farmers have said that that low values for milk will mean they are less likely to invest in animal welfare
im not putting words into her mouth this is exactly what is written.

All im asking for is where she gets this statement from
No, she states that farmers are saying the low 'value' put on milk makes it even more difficult for them to demand higher prices for their products
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Daniel5 Daniel5 VIC Posts: 93
16 11 Feb 2011
yes she does BUT then she says this will lead to lower welfare for calves and all im asking for is her to say if this is a direct quote or just an assumption that shes made up
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xMISSMONSTERx xMISSMONSTERx WA Posts: 2582
17 11 Feb 2011
Daniel5 said:
yes she does BUT then she says this will lead to lower welfare for calves and all im asking for is her to say if this is a direct quote or just an assumption that shes made up
after that she's clearly stating that it's less and less likely that farmers will be able to invest money (or even more money) into animal welfare if they're having to lower their costs due to low values being put on milk
Even farmers who do 'care' about their animals will have more trouble with this


This is simple reading comprehension.
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Daniel5 Daniel5 VIC Posts: 93
18 11 Feb 2011
My problem is that this statement is misleading as ive stated in 'Farmers Profits" topic the last place a farmer looks for cost cutting is in the welfare of there livestock.  

What i am saying is that if i were to throw a statement out there that was against the beliefs of the majority of you i would be bombarded with replys of "Show us the proof" or "Give us the website for us to check it out"
However if one of you does it its taken as the truth.
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xMISSMONSTERx xMISSMONSTERx WA Posts: 2582
19 11 Feb 2011
*bashes head against brick wall*
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Daniel5 Daniel5 VIC Posts: 93
20 11 Feb 2011
exactly how i feel!
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