So I strayed quite a lot in this thread, see the symptoms of flu and lack of sleep!
Essentially was about ends and means. Emma Goldman summarized it much better then I ever will.
"There is no greater fallacy than the belief that aims and purposes are one thing, while methods and tactics are another,
This conception is a potent menace to social regeneration.
All human experience teaches that methods and means cannot be separated from the ultimate aim.
The means employed become, through individual habit and social practice, part and parcel of the final purpose; they influence it, modify it, and presently the aims and means become identical."
"There is no greater fallacy than the belief that aims and purposes are one thing, while methods and tactics are another"
Sure.. in a perfect world. But without the controversial tactics I wonder if PETA would have the power that it has today? There are tons of people that, after seeing an "I'd rather go naked than wear fur" demonstration, decide to take a closer look at animal rights and sometimes join the movement... which can only be a good thing, right?. Also, it isn't like the women and men in the naked protests have been pressured in anyway to shed their clothes - it's their personal choice as a way to get people to look at animal rights.
Hey, does anyone know where to get bone-marrow-free marshmellows? I NEED MARSHMELLOWS!
I think i may just write a strongly worded letter to pascall. Get them to keep geleten out their marshmellows. Think they'll listen to me?
i found some marshmallows in an asian grocer, the kind which are individually packaged and have a little bit of gooey lolly inside and they were made with agar agar instead of gelatine.