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mushroomfeilds mushroomfeilds SA Posts: 320
11 5 May 2009
lol nahh there are some really goog vegan chocolate, there ricemilk choc and these good old dark choc.

xo lollybean
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Supersktendo Supersktendo VIC Posts: 5
12 5 May 2009
My reason firstly and fore-mostly came because of my beliefs due to the situation.

I wouldn't eat my dog, so why on earth would I eat a chicken?
I wouldn't wear my cat, so why support products that don fur?
I want to help the environment, why would I support an industry that ruins it?

My second reason was due to health problems.
Vegan/Vegetarianism = HEALTHYYYYYY LIFESTYLES FOR EVERYONE!

If only people could see the basic underlining...
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Rainbow Fox Rainbow Fox QLD Posts: 91
13 8 May 2009
kaytee said:
I just want to know, out of curiousity, how difficult the change was to vegan?
I'm currently in a situation where I couldn't be a vegan as I'm supported by my mother and share my house with 3 non vegetarian sisters.
I know how it is>!< I live with my mum too. My sister is vegetarian but she doesn't like veganism. So there is me, the vegan, my sister the vegetarian and then 6 other people in my house who are religious meat eaters.

For me going vegan was a bit tricky I just said to Mum that I was doing it, she was worried but I gave her some info on it and promised to take the right vitamins and foods.
It actually worked out pretty well as she was once a Chef. She suprised me by getting into it and testing her cooking skills without the animal products - results were amazing and super delicious PLUS even the meat eaters loved them

If you want to go vegan maybe give your Mum some info on it. It does have downfalls i.e. Vitamin b12 is super hard to get, but just be upfront about them and say how you plan to get all the stuff you need happy I.e vitamins or B12 fortified foods.

As for why I am vegan, at first I just didn't like the way the animals were treated, but last week for my uni course I had to go to a Dairy farm and milk cows and stuff... If I wasn't vegan by then that would have turned me I swear.

I saw the following horrid things -
-Cows that were so full of milk two days after birth struggling to walk and mooing in pain every step they took.
- I fed a half that was two day old and had been taken away from its mother when it was just 4 hours old>!<
- The cows were completely covered in poo and urine... I felt like giving them a good bath.
- The owner of the farm told me of a muster they did a while ago, the calves were in separate paddocks to the cows. When the cows were being led away the calves apparently went crazy and kept running into the fence to try and get to their mothers.
A lot of them really hurt themselves trying.

It was so sad. PLUS they have a facility to help people to learn how to deliver a calf, so i is a fake cow butt. They take the calves that they DON'T want and Hack them up... we are talking legs and heads everywhere and put them in this fake butt so people can pull it out and learn about birthing.
We didn't do it because we are in first year but I caught a glimpse of it (because it is right next to the milking shed, right near the calves mothers). I was so shocked I had to do a double take when I saw a dismembered calf just lying on the ground. I felt like being sick. ARCH.

I was so disgusted when I saw this, and I had NO IDEA it was happening.

And so that dairy practical that was meant to reassure us about the industry reassured me that it is SICK and I am never going back to that.
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RaV3N RaV3N WA Posts: 2152
14 8 May 2009
omFg thats intense! that would surely turn me right there and then...
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ABC ABC NSW Posts: 69
15 10 May 2009
Rainbow Fox, that's awful sad

And in answer to the original question. I went vegan because I couldn't see the point of only being a vegetarian. I knew if I went vegetarian I would have vegans asking me why I stopped there and I didn't want to class some animals as more worthy than others. So over a week I went from omni to vegan.

It's not that hard to be vegan. It's only hard if you want all the meat/cheese substitutes that can be hard to find if you are not in a major city. Otherwise it's very easy to be vegan, we are surrounded by vegan foods like fruit, veggies and grains.

I find I don't need the substitutes, you lose the taste for them after a while and while you are still craving dairy based cheese, the substitues aren't going to satisfy you. I'd suggest slowly cutting down on them and then once you've been vegan for a while try the fake cheeses, like Cheezly or Sheese and see what you think.

I understand it would be much harder to go vegan when you're a teen living at home. I was 22 when I went vegan and often wish I'd done it sooner, but I think if I was living at home I probably would have given up or not been supported by my meat and dairy eating parents.

Take little steps and eventually you will get there happy

Also, email Jessica at the Cruelty Free Shop re. Cheezly. She is lovely and does send it in a small esky with a cold pack. I'm not sure about Perth, so contact her to be sure.
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The Almighty Heatherzilla The Almighty Heatherzilla VIC Posts: 70
16 12 May 2009
I became vegan because I don't agree with the way animals are treated in factory farms. The fact that being vegan is also better for the environment is also a great thing. happy

I thought giving up cheese would be really hard when I became vegan but it's actually not that bad. I don't really miss it at all though one of these days I am going to go on a quest to find vegan cheese somewhere near here.

The only thing I missed was icecream but I found somewhere around here that sells soy icecream so I'm set for life. happy
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Kirrilly Kirrilly VIC Posts: 2092
17 13 May 2009
I think learning how animals in the dairy and eggs industry are treated turned me vegan. It is absolutely disgusting how they are treated like machines (expendable ones at that) and I like that I have a choice whether or not I support that industry.
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ckimana ckimana NSW Posts: 2545
18 13 May 2009
kaytee said:
I just want to know, out of curiousity, how difficult the change was to vegan?
I'm currently in a situation where I couldn't be a vegan as I'm supported by my mother and share my house with 3 non vegetarian sisters.
its a big enough stretch on my mum mum allowing me to be a vegetarian.
But in 3 years time I plan to be independant, and that will allow me to make my own meal choices, and buy my own groceries, so I'd really love to consider becoming a vegan!
How hard is it but? Will I be craving cadbury everyday of my life? lol
It's funny, when you give up chocolate and cheese, you lose your cravings and addictions... Really you do! Hard to believe, I know! I buy Cheezly every now again for nachos and pizza, but could easily go without. It's not as good as dairy cheese (sorry guys!) BUT!! when your taste buds change, you don't feel like you're missing out at all!

And think of all the animals you will be saving! Read up on dairy farming, battery hens, bobby calves etc...
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TofuUnleashed TofuUnleashed TAS Posts: 986
19 20 Aug 2010
You probably won't be craving cadbury cos there are so many vegan choccies around! tongue
Veganism was easy for me!
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meh meh NSW Posts: 2674
20 20 Aug 2010
RaV3N said:
ditto.

I still eat cheese - I'm sorry but I just love it and struggling to give it up - BUT I do eat Vegetarian cheese (non animal rennet), and can't find any cheese substitute at this stage... but other than that I don't drink milk - hardly ever did anyway. I use dairy free butter, dairy free cream cheese, dairy free sour cream (which even the non vegan b/f asks for!)

It's not just the dairy aspect, a lot of emulsifiers in foods are derived from animals, through their fat, bones, stomachs, etc. The thought of this saddens me.
There's dairy free sour cream? Where do you get it?
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