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Banning Live Exports

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Kirrilly Kirrilly VIC Posts: 2092
11 9 Jun 2011
I agree with everything Aaron said. Also keep in mind the Australian cattle have been spared the trip to Indonesia itself, which is bound to be anything but a 5 star cruise.

The story on Four Corners has gotten so much attention, I find it hard to believe other countries won't look at their own live export practices, especially if we end up banning it for good. It's setting a good example.
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Mean people wear fur Mean people wear fur QLD Posts: 1087
12 9 Jun 2011
Kirrilly said:
The story on Four Corners has gotten so much attention, I find it hard to believe other countries won't look at their own live export practices, especially if we end up banning it for good. It's setting a good example.
I agree with this. By (temporarily) banning live exports to Indonesia, more and more people will become aware of it (as well as thinking about meat after seeing Four Corners).
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Kick Kick VIC Posts: 540
13 9 Jun 2011
Indonesia claims that they're being discriminated against because there are other countries with similar welfare issues that are currently not under further scrutiny. Oh, poor you Indonesia. Life your game.
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Lisa9 Lisa9 NSW Posts: 2
14 9 Jun 2011
Animals are not a product ?? see the difference ?????
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Daniel5 Daniel5 VIC Posts: 93
15 9 Jun 2011
all i can see is its very easy to be morally correct when it doesnt financially affect you.
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Kirrilly Kirrilly VIC Posts: 2092
16 9 Jun 2011
Would you support slave traders if we still had them around?
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Daniel5 Daniel5 VIC Posts: 93
17 9 Jun 2011
One extreme to another this is why you have arguments.  Animal libos cant have middle ground its your right or im wrong.  No facts or stats will suffice all you want is for a vego world and if people lose there livelhoods in the process then who cares.  

No body is discounting the footage on four corners was disgusting buy stop being naive and at least admit that it was a biased piece of journilism that had a very set agenda.  And to all who say that thats bullshit then tell me why were there no footage of the abs that were humanly killing stock shown and dont say there wasnt any because there.
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hayley2 hayley2 VIC Posts: 208
18 9 Jun 2011
Daniel5 said:
One extreme to another this is why you have arguments.  Animal libos cant have middle ground its your right or im wrong.  No facts or stats will suffice all you want is for a vego world and if people lose there livelhoods in the process then who cares.  

No body is discounting the footage on four corners was disgusting buy stop being naive and at least admit that it was a biased piece of journilism that had a very set agenda.  And to all who say that thats bullshit then tell me why were there no footage of the abs that were humanly killing stock shown and dont say there wasnt any because there.
Because the issue isn't with humane slaughter houses is it?  The problem is with the people doing the wrong thing, and those places were shown for what they are. People can make up their own minds on how they feel about what they saw. And 200,000 Australians were disgusted. Farmers are only upset because this will effect their wallet. Too bad.
What is your issue with it? How is this going to effect you ?
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rottweiler rottweiler SA Posts: 1907
19 9 Jun 2011
Daniel5 said:
One extreme to another this is why you have arguments.  Animal libos cant have middle ground its your right or im wrong.  No facts or stats will suffice all you want is for a vego world and if people lose there livelhoods in the process then who cares.  

No body is discounting the footage on four corners was disgusting buy stop being naive and at least admit that it was a biased piece of journilism that had a very set agenda.  And to all who say that thats bullshit then tell me why were there no footage of the abs that were humanly killing stock shown and dont say there wasnt any because there.
I have the hardest time understanding why people who believe the complete opposite of what this website is about is on here.. Why are you here? To spread the word of your side? Im pretty sure everything you say everyones heard before- so no one is going to be persuaded to think your right.. I dont know what your attempting to do, or why your doing it.. Focus your attention elsewhere..
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..1 ..1 TAS Posts: 2265
20 9 Jun 2011
Even the woman who was reporting on Four Corners about live export used the slave trade comparison. So we can't be the only 'extremists'.
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