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The philosophy of animal rights is incompatible with science-based conservation

argues The Hon. Robert Borsak of the Shooters & Fishers Party in parliament

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TheSixthStitch TheSixthStitch Aruba Posts: 988
1 9 Nov 2011
As per the title, and for those interested in NSW politics, especially now that the S&F party are seemingly in a more empowering position, here is the transcript of what Mr Borsak said, dated October this year...

said:
[10.19 p.m.]: Tonight I speak about the concept of animal rights and wildlife conservation. I refer to an interesting position paper by the Wildlife Society, which is based in Maryland in the United States of America. The paper regards science as the framework necessary to understand the natural world and supports the use of science to develop rational and effective methods of wildlife and habitat management and conservation as one of the pillars of the North American model of wildlife conservation. I think we in Australia should adopt a similar philosophy. The Wildlife Society recognises the intrinsic value of wildlife and the importance of wildlife to humanity. It views wildlife and people as interrelated components of an ecological-cultural-economic complex.

The Wildlife Society also supports regulated hunting, trapping and fishing and the right of people to pursue either consumptive or non-consumptive use of wildlife. However, let me say—it is a stance fully supported by the Shooters and Fishers Party—that I share the society's concern that foundational elements of the animal rights philosophy contradict the principles that have led to the recognised successes of wildlife management in North America. These are the same animal rights people who seek at various times to impose their own philosophies on us in Australia.

Although a range of individual philosophies exists within the realm of "animal rights", most adherents have similar beliefs, including the belief that each animal should be afforded the same basic rights as human beings, animals should not be exploited for human purposes, and every animal has equal status, regardless of commonality or rarity, or whether or not the species is native, exotic, invasive or feral. The broad application of these elements of animal rights philosophy to contemporary issues of wildlife management does not do what the activists think it will. They promote false choices regarding potential human-wildlife relationships and false expectations for wildlife population management. This also erodes the confidence in decades of knowledge gained through scientific exploration of wildlife and their habitats.

On the other hand, we have the philosophy of the Wildlife Society, which focuses on quality of life for a population or species of animals, and does not preclude the management of animal populations or the use of animals for food or other cultural uses as long as it is justified, sustainable and achieved through humane methods. There is also a divergence of views evident in the fact that conservationists, for example, may value the protection of an individually endangered species more than the existence of individual common species. However, the animal rights mob advocates that individuals are viewed as equally valuable and deserving of equal protection. The Wildlife Society also points out that the animal rights viewpoint is silent on the massive land-use alterations that would be needed to feed the human population in the absence of consumptive use of animals, and the dramatic continued loss of wildlife that would follow as habitats are converted to and maintained in intensive agriculture.

We know that the Public Trust Doctrine, which is the foundation of many laws protecting wildlife in the United States, is based on the premise that wild animals are a public resource to be held in trust by the Government for the benefit of all citizens. Animal rights activists philosophically oppose this concept and advocate affording legal rights to all animals. The Wildlife Society rightly claims that if the Public Trust Doctrine was voided it would be almost impossible for wildlife professionals to manage endangered species, as well as overabundant, invasive, exotic or ecologically detrimental animal populations. Clearly, the philosophy of animal rights is incompatible with science-based conservation and management of wildlife.
Source: http://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/prod/parlment/hansart.nsf/V3Key/LC20111019045?open&refNavID=HA8_1

For more speeches by Robert Borsak: http://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/prod/parlment/hansart.nsf/V3HHBSpeaker?open&vwCat=Borsak,%20The%20Hon%20Robert
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Casper.s2 Casper.s2 SA Posts: 1640
2 11 Nov 2011
change the philosophy... change the science...

isn't that hard...

pharken rhetoric
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TheSixthStitch TheSixthStitch Aruba Posts: 988
4 12 Nov 2011
Biophiliac said:
Furthermore, it is, in many places around the world land clearing for animal feed crops that is the leading form of land degradation and deforestation.

However, this made me think. Sure, even if a strong animal rights movement was successful changing this type of absurd notion, and began in using crops intended for agricultural animals to feed humans instead. With an immediate disestablishment of the animal agriculture industries, we'd have to stop feeding some of the animals that would be liberated from captivity? Perhaps, I thought, there is enough food to keep us and the current agricultural animal population alive? However, the sheer amount of animals bred for human consumption is pretty staggering in the western world.

Could this mean that order to achieve the abolition of animal rights abuse, those animals freed from their proverbial death-sentences would have to either die hungry, or be euthanised? Would they be allowed to reproduce?

Would we have to violate basic rights in order to not violate them any further?

The original statement, and basic premise of the Wildlife Societies views are reprehensible, and are all too easily used as propaganda against the animal rights movement. However, there is some darker truth to the notion behind it, I think. Perhaps it just means animal rights abuse is an issue that can only end by its own contradiction, at least in some way?

Or do you think we do grow enough food for us and the animals? The countless ones that we have brought into life for our own unfortunate desires.
Good questions, Bio.  

I expect you'd get a dizzying range of answers, especially as your questions are filled with a plethora of issues and concepts that haven't yet reached a national/global consensus (e.g. abolitionism vs welfarism, economics, conservatism, ).

I know what you're asking is that for the animal rights movements to succeed, "you've got to crack a few eggs to make an omelette"? and to that, all I can do is clutch my head with cthulhu-esque madness and repeat again and again "I don't know, I don't know..."
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