Animals Australia clarification

It's an organisation for taking a stand against animal cruelty.

Obviously the group would be full of vegetarians and vegans as it makes sense to not eat the animals that you want to help alleviate suffering for.

So do you think I would be the sole meat eater on this website.  These friends are very passionate about animal welfare but like me are meat eaters.  I have suggested that they visit this site as a guest and if it is not to their liking join the RSPCA and donate to them.  Is that a fair call do you think ?  My donating friend will not be happy but I guess you win some and you lose some in life.

I think xMISSMONSTERx is exactly right. Animals Australia is about, but not limited to, helping animals live without exploitation, cruelty, abuse and murder.

That's my opinion anyway. Maybe a mod who works for Animals Australia can chime is with the organisations mission statement or similar.

i agree with miss monster.

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this picture shows you the difference between someone who believes in animal rights, and someone who believes in animal welfare..

Hey Cassie3!

First of all, you are absolutely, positively, definitely *not* the only omni here. There are lots of you! And you are all welcome

MissMonster has it pretty much right. Animals Australia is an animal protection organisation whose "goal is to significantly and permanently improve the welfare of all animals in Australia."

Unleashed (http://www.unleashed.org.au) is the youth arm of Animals Australia (http://www.animalsaustralia.org/).

We recognise that vegetarians and vegans only make up a very small precent of the population right now. So, if our organisation was only for these people then we'd be cutting out a massive chunk of the population who also care about animals and can have a big impact on their lives.

A lot of the campaigns we run relate to farmed animals because they represent the largest number of animals who are suffering routine abuse in this country with very few laws to protect them from harm. It is true that the ultimate way you can help protect these animals in your daily life is simply not to eat them - but other people choose to reduce the amount of animal products they eat, while others choose to buy higher welfare products (like organic). All of these choices add up to create significant change for animals. And Animals Australia and Unleashed are here to support and encourage everyone who wants to make changes in their lives - no matter how big or small - that can have a positive impact for animals.

But harping on about what we eat is not the only way we campaign to help animals. There are other campaigns that don't relate to eating choices at all - like fur, animal testing, dog and cat euthanasia, dolphin hunting, live export, etc. Cruelty is cruelty and in some cases it doesn't matter if you're vegetarian or not - you can still make a difference for animals.

That's what we're all about. I hope that clears it up! And I hope you'll stick around

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Thank you for this info Karen.  I must say that I have not read any posts from other omnis.  Maybe they are keeping 'mum' with their opinions.  You are right cruelty is cruelty and I can categorically state that our animals are well cared for regardless of the fact that the beef cattle are for consumption eventually.  All twelve hundred head of cattle, work dogs, work horses, goats etc.  They are a lot to care for and I think we do a mighty fine job of it.  And just for the record I know that most of our fellow beef producers are just as caring.  I take umbrage at the suggestion that there is routine abuse of livestock on farms.  I think it would pay for some on this website to get right out there and spend some time on a beef producing property such as ours.  I have made the offer on several occasions but none seem willing to broaden their minds.  Ah well one can only hope that one day they will open their minds.  Cheers

While some farmers may care about the welfare of their products not all do. I think it's generally accepted that beef production has a lot fewer welfare problems than for other animals. I'd love to know your take on intensive production of chickens and pigs. A lot of my issues lie with the fact that these animals are slaughtered needlessly in our society and that abbatoir conditions are awful(have family that has worked in one, have tried to set up a visits but not been allowed anywhere near), not just for the animals but for the people working there too. The bottom line is that no matter how well an animal is treated while they're growing they're still going to be killed with no regard, and since the goal is to get as many animals processed as quickly as possible there will no doubt be little care for the welfare of the animals. They're just going to end up dead anyway right.

EDIT: This is entirely my personal view based on my own experience and research and in no way reflects animals australia.

I can see where your coming from Cassie3, my dad runs a beef production farm, althought its no where near as many head of cattle as you, he still runs them on large acerage, makes sure they are in top condition, vaccination, worming ect are all up-to-date. I really appreciate when farmers farm aniamls in open, free and caring conditions. I hate the idea of people making money off slaughtering animals, but fact is the world wont turn vegan or vegetarian and since there will always be a market for meat we should support the farmers who actually take animal welfare seriously. Dont get me wrong, i dont approve of slaughtering innocent animals, ive personally witnessed the abuse in slaughterhouses and home slaughter jobs and its descusting, horrific and depressing. If you dont mind me asking what do you do with your goats?