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d-i-am-ond d-i-am-ond WA Posts: 342
1 9 Oct 2009
I know this sounds corny.
But like- All animal cruelty groups are here for the same thing aren't they?
And my friends are in diffrent ones to me and they call me their rivals. Lol they fail.

Oh well as long as Unleashed is the best XD

and atleast I'm doing my bit happy
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Aweso_ me Aweso_ me VIC Posts: 280
2 9 Oct 2009
agreed, it shouldn't be like that, but at least they do the same its a good thing  thumb thumb
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ckimana ckimana NSW Posts: 2545
3 10 Oct 2009
Julezz said:
I know this sounds corny.
But like- All animal cruelty groups are here for the same thing aren't they?
And my friends are in diffrent ones to me and they call me their rivals. Lol they fail.

Oh well as long as Unleashed is the best XD

and atleast I'm doing my bit happy
Haha, yeah.  Which ones are they on? This one is definatley my fav happy
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jack jack VIC Posts: 1463
4 10 Oct 2009
yea its stupid
im in many groups with differnt principles aswell but who cares
we ARE here for the same thing people
but unleashed is aweosme(best)
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Francis Francis VIC Posts: 286
5 11 Oct 2009
I think to trivialise core philosophic differences is dangerous.

The main rifts, in my mind, are between organisations that willingly promote animal products obtained through better conditions (promotion by exemption from comment can fit this too) and those organisations that have an unequivical anti-ALL animal exploitation message and strive to highlight the inherent cruelty ionvolved in every aspect.

These aren't minor differences, they are important things to consider when we are positioning ourselves to speak for others (animals).
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Ward Ward VIC Posts: 94
6 12 Oct 2009
Julezz said:
Oh well as long as Unleashed is the best XD

and atleast I'm doing my bit happy
Damn straight dude. Wouldn't it be nice if most groups worked together? Alas, Unleashed is the best ahahah
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Aimee Aimee VIC Posts: 957
7 12 Oct 2009
Francis said:
I think to trivialise core philosophic differences is dangerous.

The main rifts, in my mind, are between organisations that willingly promote animal products obtained through better conditions (promotion by exemption from comment can fit this too) and those organisations that have an unequivical anti-ALL animal exploitation message and strive to highlight the inherent cruelty ionvolved in every aspect.

These aren't minor differences, they are important things to consider when we are positioning ourselves to speak for others (animals).
Francis, what organisations are you specifically referring to?
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Francis Francis VIC Posts: 286
8 12 Oct 2009
None in particular, I think we can all make up our own minds on that one.

I'm just trying to put my vote in against trivialising real differences in approaches when it comes to speaking for animals... or women.... or starving kids in africa.
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Aimee Aimee VIC Posts: 957
9 12 Oct 2009
I don't really think it's dangerous at all to not examine the finer details of an organisation's approach.
There's nothing scary here in animal rights. Most of us are just here trying to help animals and don't really feel the need to waste time nitpicking every little thing that we don't agree with 100%. I think gossip and bagging organisations behind their backs (or even to their faces) isn't really helping animals at all.
We can theorise till the cows come home but at the end of the day, if you have a minute to spare and you would like to help animals, then join in anyone who's campaigning, go leaflet, just do it. Forget about the 100%. There are animals suffering RIGHT NOW.
That's all that matters.
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Francis Francis VIC Posts: 286
10 13 Oct 2009
RSPCA Free Range/Organic Veal campagin.... you'd get behind that Aimee?

Whether we like it or not, philosophy and sociology are vital to social movements - all of them.

You'll say no tto that question, but why? I'm guessing it's because the RSPCA are defamed so regularly throughout the movement in all sorts of groups that it becomes an easy thing to do. And of coiurse, it is a stupid thing to support if you want to help animals.

The point is that through all phases of our lives - but ESPECIALLY when we are speaking for/representing others - we need to think critically and examine the actions that we take ourselves and the actions that we support. We can't just - or at least I don't think it's wise to- go out with any group for any sort of action that claims to be helping animals.
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