Naturopath/Nutritionist in Brisbane?

Thank you for the info Fae, Ill review it now

Hey Fae just read through the website, some interesting cases, prayers be with the families, in particular the children, something that was noticed though, the website states little over 368,379 deaths to naturopathy right? Now I am not in the defense of naturopathy, only providing insight.

"http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/26/world/africa/26aids.html" That provides the website with 365,000 of its death and it outlines AID treatment negligence? Which was a African government rendered decision? The reported outlook from the president is denial not treatment of aids!

Also there seem to be a few 'Jana Roe' and 'John Does' reported deceased. Next would be the cases where the Naturopaths are not accredited Naturopaths!

If the AIDs patients are removed from the total that leaves us with 3,379 deaths attributed to alternative medicine according to this website? Attributed to Ayurvedic lead toxicity (of which has been supported by Dr. Greger MD @ Nutritionfacts.org, great site check it out, he has the research articles available after each 'claim'). Negligence, which seemingly makes sense for someone to be in harms way, or as aforementioned fraud! Claiming to be trained, however not, yet still administering treatment!

Please look this over, so we can help .Jasmine. make an informed decision.
It would seem the dangers are not so much of Naturopaths (qualified) but more so negligence.

Namaste

Dr. Greger on lead-poisoning in Ayurvedic medicine

http://nutritionfacts.org/videos/some-ayurvedic-medicine-worse-than-lead-paint-exposure/

http://nutritionfacts.org/videos/get-the-lead-out/

It would seem, even though the herbs are providing results, the processing methods render them toxic.

Alternative medicine is really quite silly. For the sake of your body please do no turn away from those like doctors who have spent many years studying the human body and are backed by much research, to people, who quite honestly, have no f**king idea what they are talking about.

As said by Tim Minchin -  by definition "alternative medicine has either not been proved to work, or been proved not to work. Do you know what they call alternative medicine that's been proved to work? Medicine."

Mordechai,

Hey, I'll have to review your links later in the week. Have been away from the forum for a bit and still rather busy so will wait till I can read the content without rushing through to give you a reply on those.

Though, as you point out, there are situations were negligent plays a role regards of what sore of health 'professional' the person providing treatment is.

But at the end of the day, alternative medicine has no proven itself in the same way all other evidence based medicine has. After years of managing my own health and those close me doing that same, I feel I am making an informed choice *based on reason and evidence.*

Overall, unless new studies found an alternative medicine to have some sort of benefit other than the placebo effect (and should you look into the sort of studies that have been carried out, you'll see that a 'better' result based on the current principles and methods of current alternative medicine is actually impossible) then I will not have a solid reason to change my position on this topic.

Some people may want to hold onto believing in special energies, spirits and karma playing a part in their health. But I sure don't. Science is golden. The reality we have is gorgeous; I don't need to put myself into denial and believe in things that do not exist.

I wouldn't deny someone to have the right to believe in what I think is bollocks, either.

The evidence is strong enough that in every instance, like this thread, I will call it out as a con/scam/and higher probability of risk than 'mainstream' medicine as I will not just twiddle my thumbs if I see a risk of suffering to others whether it be in their psychical health, mental health, finances or other factors.

And as the other commenter mentioned about Tim Minchin's song, maybe watched this video. It's pretty much the position I take but you may get a giggle to.

Storm by Tim Minchin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhGuXCuDb1U

Fae the Tim Minchin is hilarious, found the video very funny.
After some research it turns out Tim and I went to the same school? The point of Aspirin in the poem is beautifully placed, and its a point we may forget... similarly heroine was created by the same company (Bayer) to be used as a cough medicine. Now this is not to point fingers but more so that one could see the side effects of heroine before the information became publicly known world-wide. Certainly not inferring that Aspirin is equivalent, as vegetarians/vegans have a higher blood content reading of Aspirin present from all the dark green leafies? This then gets coined something like the "anti-inflammatory diet" which then satiates someone's desire to rid themselves of joint pain and purchase into a diet program which costs $X and removes the competency of the person themselves to grow in *gasp* Knowledge.

Knowledge is power, some may not agree, knowledge is also dangerous without compassion. Look at any war, any invention, scheme, relationship and etc.
Have you been in a relationship with someone 'smarter' than you? Or a boss who is more 'knowledgeable' and experienced this interaction when compassion is void? It can be... dangerous. Now, unsure if .Jasmine. has received the information she desired, a running theme of this thread would certainly be, research and become competent. If you have a question, there will be an answer as mentioned by Tim Minchin, logic is not evil, it prevents you from leaving your house via the window. Once you have a question, you have a direction. Look at Tim Minchin for example, clearly clever guy, he may even self treat things like aspirin, exercise, diet and etc. Medical professionals are there just like your plumber knows more about pipes, your dance teacher more about dance. It does not prevent you from gaining the knowledge yourself, they are guides.

So if someone is looking to self-treat nutritionally you look for a nutritionist. One soon learns that people like Don Tolman, Dr Doug Graham and etc etc leaders of various movements are they trying to make their product available? Truly available to everyone. Is the well-being of people important?

B12 supplement, 1 year supply can set one back $1 if 'competent' in research.
1 x pack of goji berries can easily creep up for $25 for fortnight daily use?

Again as Tim Minchin says, science is based on observance.
So should all of our decisions. Total blessings of forums, we can all report our findings 'real-people' situations and say this worked, this didn't, this worked, that didn't and then compare what is a randomized, double-blind, placebo controlled research article telling me?

Research does sometimes lack compassion however, for example the dietary guidelines for the US released that 200mg of cholesterol a day is the upper most limit. However then the 'egg & diary' companies begin to squeeze and suddenly eggs which contain easily over 200mg of cholesterol as still, a staple food? How many americans know that the recommended daily intake of fruit and vege is 9 servings?

Love science, be observant of egoism (out for ME, not out for 'us').

We are all ultimately ignorant.
We cannot be 100% vegan/non-violent.

But what we can be is at peace certainly of our ignorance. This does not mean we shouldn't seek to become competent, in the example of this thread, we should seek to evolve and with the evolution of our knowledge evolve our compassion. Why? As otherwise we will easily bring pain to ourselves and others.

Now, to watch some more Tim Minchin, in particular, 'human logic'
Lets pray I'm not so ignorant.

Namaste,

Purplefae I think you are very confused about the stance of natural medicine. I am not sure whether you have read the initial question that was asked but it along the lines of "Needing advice on a vegan diet". Apart from the food pyramid based on the Standard Australian/American Diet or "SAD" diet as it is sometimes called, a regular GP receives less than 3 hrs of nutritional training throughout their entire degree. Advising a vegan to see their GP for nutritional advice will not be helpful as one of their job requirements is not to plan diets for people. I referred to my page for this purpose. I did not give advice on surgery or drugs, which I clearly have no experience in and I leave to the doctors.

You are entitled to your own opinion about natural medicine, but putting down a profession which has a sole goal of improving a persons health and educating the individual to take care of their own health is really ridiculous. I do not understand where this "industry that causes suffering" idea is coming from. Naturopaths/nutritionist do not advise people against medical treatment, but people look to our services as an alternative to some medical treatments that may end in side effects (some drugs etc). I see patients who come to me that are on 1/2 a dozen drugs with many side effects and are looking for advice on how to deal with this (many a times there initial health problems can be rectified by changing the diet and lifestyle. Naturopaths look to the root cause of illness. If you would like to google "big pharma" and you may find it is actually the pharmaceutical industry (that tests all drugs on animals I may add) that has vested interests.

Very interesting comments/opinions. It wasn't that long ago that MBF now BUPA did not support physiotherapy, as it was considered to be alternative, next came Acupuncture, then soon Reiki. I wonder which mumbo jumbo nonsense is next? I personally like being a healer, and am happy seeing people walk out all glowing. Obviously tens of thousands of years old alternative medicines will never work 100%, as people will not accept to healing for stubborn reasons (Ha! I still wonder why they bother showing up for an appointment). The other reasons healing will not work is that the healer is not dedicated to their practice, or is mentally or physiclly ill and went to work. Alternative therapies are a fantastic complimentary way of getting better by using modern medicine and ancient medicine together. I am surprised humans are not all dead by not having a GP to go to 10,000 years ago

Hi Jasmine,

If you are still looking, I am a bachelor qualified Naturopath practicing in Brisbane. I love to work with people fine tuning their Vegan/Vegetarian and Raw food diets.
My website is www.naturallyholly.com for more information.
Best of Luck,
Holly

GP's have 4 hours nutrition studies, this is a fact. Naturopaths study nutrition for years. Doctors treat sickness. The is not one single form of health and wellness out there.