I'm not entirely sure what you mean, I answered the question as I understood it..
My ideal world in regard to animals would be the the non-human animal population regulating itself, which I believe would happen if humans stopped interfering. Did you know that a huge amount of the world's crops (95% of soy crops and 80% of corn crops) are grown to feed livestock? That kind of filtering of nutrients is what is keeping human poverty going. I do care about humans just as much as animals, and I DO believe we can live in harmony with non-human animals, but we have to stop destroying the world first.
The non human animal population regulating itself. You have no idea how cruel that would be . There is a reason that the human being is born with a much superior brain than those of the animal kingdom. Mind you we are often too smart for our own good and our brain power is not always put to good use. There is no going back now with regards to what we have done to our world but there is a way forward. I am afraid that you will have to accept that people will always eat meat so why beat your head against a brick wall and try and bully your fellow man into a vegan lifestyle. You do the cause of animals no good at all as you energies are spent on a fruitless journey.
Nature is cruel, but it's the way things are MEANT TO BE. Humans interfering is what has caused all the problems. Natural populations should regulate themselves because that's how the world works best. If Australia had never been industrialised and farmed we would have no population issues with kangaroos right now. Yeah it's awful to think of animals starving when their population gets too big but that's just life, their predators pick them off as well and then their population returns to what it should be.
Yep too right that is just life just as the fact that 99% of the world's population eat meat and very few would be considering not doing so. Yep that is just life get over it. I'm afraid it is very simple to find the problems, it takes a little more effort to find the solutions. For now I say good night as I have a very sick calf to attend to.
I'm not entirely sure what you mean, I answered the question as I understood it..
My ideal world in regard to animals would be the the non-human animal population regulating itself, which I believe would happen if humans stopped interfering. Did you know that a huge amount of the world's crops (95% of soy crops and 80% of corn crops) are grown to feed livestock? That kind of filtering of nutrients is what is keeping human poverty going. I do care about humans just as much as animals, and I DO believe we can live in harmony with non-human animals, but we have to stop destroying the world first.
The non human animal population regulating itself. You have no idea how cruel that would be . There is a reason that the human being is born with a much superior brain than those of the animal kingdom. Mind you we are often too smart for our own good and our brain power is not always put to good use. There is no going back now with regards to what we have done to our world but there is a way forward. I am afraid that you will have to accept that people will always eat meat so why beat your head against a brick wall and try and bully your fellow man into a vegan lifestyle. You do the cause of animals no good at all as you energies are spent on a fruitless journey.
Nature is cruel, but it's the way things are MEANT TO BE. Humans interfering is what has caused all the problems. Natural populations should regulate themselves because that's how the world works best. If Australia had never been industrialised and farmed we would have no population issues with kangaroos right now. Yeah it's awful to think of animals starving when their population gets too big but that's just life, their predators pick them off as well and then their population returns to what it should be.
Yep too right that is just life just as the fact that 99% of the world's population eat meat and very few would be considering not doing so. Yep that is just life get over it. I'm afraid it is very simple to find the problems, it takes a little more effort to find the solutions. For now I say good night as I have a very sick calf to attend to.
Only in developed nations is the number of meat eaters that high (and it's down to about 93% now btw) since the vast majority of those in the developing world can't afford to eat meat at all. The USA alone consumes 20% of the meat produced globally and since the US makes up only a small portion of the global population I would say that globally maybe half eat meat regularly (more than 4 times a week).
I'm not entirely sure what you mean, I answered the question as I understood it..
My ideal world in regard to animals would be the the non-human animal population regulating itself, which I believe would happen if humans stopped interfering. Did you know that a huge amount of the world's crops (95% of soy crops and 80% of corn crops) are grown to feed livestock? That kind of filtering of nutrients is what is keeping human poverty going. I do care about humans just as much as animals, and I DO believe we can live in harmony with non-human animals, but we have to stop destroying the world first.
The non human animal population regulating itself. You have no idea how cruel that would be . There is a reason that the human being is born with a much superior brain than those of the animal kingdom. Mind you we are often too smart for our own good and our brain power is not always put to good use. There is no going back now with regards to what we have done to our world but there is a way forward. I am afraid that you will have to accept that people will always eat meat so why beat your head against a brick wall and try and bully your fellow man into a vegan lifestyle. You do the cause of animals no good at all as you energies are spent on a fruitless journey.
Nature is cruel, but it's the way things are MEANT TO BE. Humans interfering is what has caused all the problems. Natural populations should regulate themselves because that's how the world works best. If Australia had never been industrialised and farmed we would have no population issues with kangaroos right now. Yeah it's awful to think of animals starving when their population gets too big but that's just life, their predators pick them off as well and then their population returns to what it should be.
Yep too right that is just life just as the fact that 99% of the world's population eat meat and very few would be considering not doing so. Yep that is just life get over it. I'm afraid it is very simple to find the problems, it takes a little more effort to find the solutions. For now I say good night as I have a very sick calf to attend to.
Only in developed nations is the number of meat eaters that high (and it's down to about 93% now btw) since the vast majority of those in the developing world can't afford to eat meat at all. The USA alone consumes 20% of the meat produced globally and since the US makes up only a small portion of the global population I would say that globally maybe half eat meat regularly (more than 4 times a week).
One more point; I'm sure the royal wedding didn't escape your notice, since their were delegates from pretty much every country the only menu they could provide for the reception was vegan because it was the only one that didn't offend anyone! Many religions dictate the exclusion of certain animal foods. India, the country with the largest population in the world, condemns the eating of cows in most regions because of their religion. So your statement was not only vastly inaccurate but also very naive. Most of the world doesn't have the life that you do or even hold the same ideas as you. That's life.
From your responses to the answers given, you were clearly gunnin' for a fight.
You didn't seem interested in anyone's point of view, except your own.
And then when you weren't getting your way, you suddenly left the chat. If you're going to cause a stir, stick around and give your opinion, but listen clearly to what others have to say.
This is basic courtesy in a debate, which is what your question was.
It started with a rather overused question (who HASN'T had this asked to them?), then once people shared their thoughts it turned into "Yeah but people eat meat, people eat meat, people eat meat." What?
Yes Ronnie you do have a point. My question was loaded. I still feel very strongly that you are as members of AA chasing an uncatchable dog but each to their own. I will continue to care for the animals in my charge and I will continue to eat meat. I rest my case and all the very best with your cause. Happy teaching too.
The point of this thread was nearly pointless. Cassie didn't make any good points at all, if anything made statements that aren't fact, and simply responded ignorantly to everyones opinion which didn't correspond to her own. In saying that: just because most people in the Western world eat a lot of meat doesn't mean we cannot stick to our own moral beliefs and encourage more positive change.
Yes Ronnie you do have a point. My question was loaded. I still feel very strongly that you are as members of AA chasing an uncatchable dog but each to their own. I will continue to care for the animals in my charge and I will continue to eat meat. I rest my case and all the very best with your cause. Happy teaching too.
It's not just about the animals for some people; it's about long term good health for others (I fortunately care about both factors). If you did read "The China Study" you would see the "animals for food industry" is a major factor to the booming health crisis of the western world & ever-increasing medical expenses.
Oh, & if you're worried the scientist who wrote this book (based around nearly 30yrs of research, studies & peer-reviewed journal articles); please know he started his life on a dairy farm, loving his parents dairy farm & being an avid meat-eater & dairy-cosumer.
He actually started veterinary studies, however, his studies took on a different turn when he started to learn about how different foods, affect the body - for better & for worse.
