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B12 Fortified Foods

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lucidity lucidity SA Posts: 54
21 22 Oct 2013
Lacey1 said:
Sorry to go a little off topic, but according to my dietician, the type of B12 our bodies need can only come from animal sources? B12 analogues she called it. Does anyone have knowledge on this?
i'm gonna say wrong. animals don't produce b12, they have it in their bodies because when they eat, they eat bits of soil with the bacteria in it. so it's all one source.
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Casper.s2 Casper.s2 SA Posts: 1640
22 22 Oct 2013
pretty sure ruminant animals (with multiple stomachs) have bacteria in them, which can directly synthesize cobalt into cobalamine... but yes legumes do this too, i'm unsure how this becomes available to animals thought.

as in... legumes only 'enrichen' the soil with Nitrates because peas, beans et cetera a high users of Nitrogen.. thus they must generate/convert other matter into Nitrates and when they are tilled over while mature crops (after the root nodules are well established) their excess production of nitrates is left to the soil happy

how this B12 becomes available i'm unsure, otherwise we could say peas and beans ARE high in B12 themselves. but they aren't? are they.

hum..

Oh that is why I am here. Comfrey!!! apparently another source of B12, great plant for composting also and it converts and concentrates useful elements into poor soil. woots!
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Casper.s2 Casper.s2 SA Posts: 1640
23 22 Oct 2013
lucidity said:
Lacey1 said:
Sorry to go a little off topic, but according to my dietician, the type of B12 our bodies need can only come from animal sources? B12 analogues she called it. Does anyone have knowledge on this?
i'm gonna say wrong. animals don't produce b12, they have it in their bodies because when they eat, they eat bits of soil with the bacteria in it. so it's all one source.
hi there, just a quick philosophical question for you.

How Do Vegans Exist, then?

are we just ignoring that Veganism has been around longer than the term was coined and that many people have lived full lives as Vegans?

I mean.. just a tiny fact worth consideration.

Edit:

oh! I wasn't being rude, that is just a pet peeve of logic that always gets me. um but knowledge... well just some information, unsure of its' scientific truth.

people were excited about spirulina (or a similar algae rich in soluble/digestible b12) due to it being a supposedly rich source of readily available nutrients.

but then a study was done that suggested the b12 provided by the algae were infact 'analogs'...

think of a virus.

an analog (from memory and in this context) is like a virus cell, in the way that it is called 'dead'. the b12 molecule fits the receptor, but does not function actively. thus it is actually a negative thing to have analogs of nutrients clogging up your system. was my understanding anyway.

ummmm another way to grasp this is through plants.

certain plants "require" certain nutrients.. simply because where they evolved/adapted/acclimatized/adjusted to symbiotically had soil of this constitution.

anyway... a little pithy: "one sign of a deficiency, is that of an excess' or an excess is a key sign deficiencies will be present. because ... think osmosis... when a thing is saturated, it is just that. it cannot 'absorb' any more.

thus an intricate system flooded with a highly soluble inorganic matter like salt, probably blocks the absorption of essential nutrients in the right balance.

sorry. plants! so when a plant has too much iron available, the leaves tend to die because it cannot get enough moisture, due to not being able to absorb other essential trace elements. thus an excess of one vital thing, causes a deficiency of another even if it is readily available.

oh if you ever wondered why soil PH (acid - alkaline) is so important, it is simply that plants are accustom to certain nutrients and certain nutrients become available to the plant when the soil is in different PH conditions. so acid and alkaline versions of the same soil would have different molecular structure. the acidity causes reactions between nutrients and so on.


hope that kinda helped. there have been studies saying that there is sufficient B12 RDI tested in ground water! *shrugs* noone cares to check things which will cause discoveries that cost them money. lol why discover something when people can simply live a life 'coping' without vital sustenance that could make their brain work properly to solve these problems. lol. who would be smart enough to promote such a discovery! ... when everyone suffers the same.

*le sigh
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reddapanda reddapanda ACT Posts: 381
25 23 Aug 2014
Just my opinion/preference, but I take liquid B12 drops - just drop some under my tongue once a day. Sor-ed.

At someone else's recommendation, I started with these ones which I get online here:

http://www.evitamins.com/ultra-b-12-liquid-now-9217#.U_h4avm1Ytc

I find it more reassuring to know I've got my B12 requirement. Very important.

Best wishes.
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Kman Kman NSW Posts: 14
26 25 Aug 2014
I believe the low fat coles brand soy milk has b12 and other stuff included, i'm not sure if the regular one (which i usually buy) does, the low fat one just caught my eye last time for some reason

its also been going down steeply in price recently, it's now $1.20/l here
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reddapanda reddapanda ACT Posts: 381
27 26 Aug 2014
http://www.veganhealth.org/articles/vitaminb12

http://www.veganhealth.org/articles/everyvegan

Highly recommend reading these. Don't be confused by B12, it's simple enough - but you do need make sure get it from a reliable source. There's nothing wrong with B12 supplements; and yes you can get vegan versions.

Best wishes for good health. happy
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reddapanda reddapanda ACT Posts: 381
28 31 Aug 2014
I just received this in my emails - it's about B12 too. 3 minutes with additional links.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMEw-Bc0cHM

Recommended.
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Randi Randi Australia Posts: 1
29 26 Feb 2017
vegetable roast, by vegie delights can be purchased from coles has a rich source of B12.
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