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Soya, the hidden truth

the controversial issue

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PeacefortheAnimals PeacefortheAnimals VIC Posts: 8
1 14 Oct 2012
Did you know that soya can possibly harm your health, now I am going to be really careful with what I say here, but it can interfere with your hormone's, some young boys who have grown up with soya as a main in their diet have developed breasts.
** This is not with everyone, some are more affected than others, and there isn't any solid evidence, so everyone can choose whether or not to consume**
So if you are eating soya and it has not effected you then the likes are your body likes it. I don't want to put anyone off vegetarianism or anything, I don't eat soya products and i am fully vegetarian, I only eat some soya every now and then.
It can also affect pregnant women, teenagers and growing children. Do me a favor and don't just look up one site on google because they can be really one sided.this is an excerpt from livestrong
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Soybeans are rich in protein and can be made into many different products, including soy milk. Soy milk is commonly consumed by vegans and the lactose intolerant. Products made with soy may also have an effect on hormonal levels within the body, though soy milk's ability to affect hormone levels is still being studied.
Isoflavones

Soy milk and products made with soy contain a variety of chemicals, but of particular interest is a class of compounds known as isoflavones. Chemically similar to estrogen, isoflavones are unique chemicals made by soybeans. Estrogen affects cells by binding to special proteins known as receptors, which then transmit signals to the cell. These chemicals, sometimes known as phytoestrogens, might be able to interact with these receptors.


Some people consume soy products, such as soy milk, in the hopes of reducing symptoms of menopause. Menopause occurs when your ovaries stop producing eggs and results in a drop in estrogen levels. This drop in estrogen can cause hot flashes, osteoporosis and other symptoms of menopause. In theory, the phytoestrogens in soy could help reduce hot flashes and other menopausal symptoms. According to the MedLinePlus, soy milk and other soy products may be effective in this regard, though more research is needed.
Soy and Increased Cancer Risk

Another question involving soy milk is the effect of isoflavones on your risk of developing cancers that respond to hormones, the National Center for Complementary and Alternative Medicine notes. Increased estrogen signaling is associated with an elevated risk of developing breast, uterine and ovarian cancer. This is because estrogen stimulates growth in these tissues and unusual cell growth can lead to the development of cancerous cells. In theory, isoflavones could bind to the estrogen receptors in these cells and stimulate cell growth, so women who have a high risk of developing these cancer may want to avoid soy milk.
Soy and Cancer Prevention

Isoflavones do not necessarily stimulate estrogen receptors. Because isoflavones are only similar in chemical structure to estrogen, they could also bind to estrogen receptors but block signaling instead of stimulating them. This means that soy milk could potentially reduce your risk of developing breast, uterine and ovarian cancer. According to the Harvard School of Public Health, women who consume large amounts of soy during early adulthood and adolescence have a reduced incidence of breast cancer, which shows that more research needs to be done regarding the effects of soy on hormones.

Read more: http://www.livestrong.com/article/410623-will-soy-milk-affect-hormones/#ixzz29FL5E7cP
TAKE YOUR SIDE AND POST YOUR VIEW!
happy
P.S Remember this is just one side and it has yet to be proven completely !
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KirstyGirl KirstyGirl TAS Posts: 754
2 15 Oct 2012
It pretty much goes like this: if it's heavily processed try and stay away if it's not then it's ok. Soy is in almost everything! It's not so much that it's bad, it's that the soy we eat in the western world is usually in overly processed foods. No matter what though, soy burgers, soy milk etc etc. is still vastly better for you than their meat and cows milk alternatives!
Just eat these things in moderation, particularly without doing heaps of research because some soys are super foods and are extremely good for you while others may be harmful. It depends on how the soy has been processed.
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Rene Ellul Rene Ellul QLD Posts: 6
3 16 Oct 2012
I drink soy milk at least a 1L to 2L a day fro the past 15 yrs. I have no man breasts. Only Muscle pecs (I workout) With my excessive intake you would think I'd have bigger knockers than my mum but no. I don't and will continue drinking soy for it's decent protein content! Maybe it is different for different people I dunno!
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Casper.s2 Casper.s2 SA Posts: 1640
4 20 Oct 2012
PeacefortheAnimals said:
Did you know that soya can possibly harm your health, now I am going to be really careful with what I say here, but it can interfere with your hormone's, some young boys who have grown up with soya as a main in their diet have developed breasts.
** This is not with everyone, some are more affected than others, and there isn't any solid evidence, so everyone can choose whether or not to consume**
So if you are eating soya and it has not effected you then the likes are your body likes it. I don't want to put anyone off vegetarianism or anything, I don't eat soya products and i am fully vegetarian, I only eat some soya every now and then.
It can also affect pregnant women, teenagers and growing children. Do me a favor and don't just look up one site on google because they can be really one sided.this is an excerpt from livestrong
"

Soybeans are rich in protein and can be made into many different products, including soy milk. Soy milk is commonly consumed by vegans and the lactose intolerant. Products made with soy may also have an effect on hormonal levels within the body, though soy milk's ability to affect hormone levels is still being studied.
Isoflavones

Soy milk and products made with soy contain a variety of chemicals, but of particular interest is a class of compounds known as isoflavones. Chemically similar to estrogen, isoflavones are unique chemicals made by soybeans. Estrogen affects cells by binding to special proteins known as receptors, which then transmit signals to the cell. These chemicals, sometimes known as phytoestrogens, might be able to interact with these receptors.


Some people consume soy products, such as soy milk, in the hopes of reducing symptoms of menopause. Menopause occurs when your ovaries stop producing eggs and results in a drop in estrogen levels. This drop in estrogen can cause hot flashes, osteoporosis and other symptoms of menopause. In theory, the phytoestrogens in soy could help reduce hot flashes and other menopausal symptoms. According to the MedLinePlus, soy milk and other soy products may be effective in this regard, though more research is needed.
Soy and Increased Cancer Risk

Another question involving soy milk is the effect of isoflavones on your risk of developing cancers that respond to hormones, the National Center for Complementary and Alternative Medicine notes. Increased estrogen signaling is associated with an elevated risk of developing breast, uterine and ovarian cancer. This is because estrogen stimulates growth in these tissues and unusual cell growth can lead to the development of cancerous cells. In theory, isoflavones could bind to the estrogen receptors in these cells and stimulate cell growth, so women who have a high risk of developing these cancer may want to avoid soy milk.
Soy and Cancer Prevention

Isoflavones do not necessarily stimulate estrogen receptors. Because isoflavones are only similar in chemical structure to estrogen, they could also bind to estrogen receptors but block signaling instead of stimulating them. This means that soy milk could potentially reduce your risk of developing breast, uterine and ovarian cancer. According to the Harvard School of Public Health, women who consume large amounts of soy during early adulthood and adolescence have a reduced incidence of breast cancer, which shows that more research needs to be done regarding the effects of soy on hormones.

Read more: http://www.livestrong.com/article/410623-will-soy-milk-affect-hormones/#ixzz29FL5E7cP
TAKE YOUR SIDE AND POST YOUR VIEW!
happy
P.S Remember this is just one side and it has yet to be proven completely !
Also... Soya has the largest dedicated land mass of any plant, namely the ol' amazon rainforest. And majority of this is for use as a fodder/feed crop.

As soon as I started a diet suited to my ethics, I have been avoiding Soya as much as Meat or Miscellaneous Animal Residues.
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Pomi Pomi VIC Posts: 311
5 20 Oct 2012
Yeah, unfermented soy is pretty bad, however fermented soy is much safer and healthier happy
Random article summing it up: http://www.naturalnews.com/025513_soy_food_soybeans.html
I encourage everyone to research it further and do what suits them. I'd always pick tempeh over tofu though happy
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Casper.s2 Casper.s2 SA Posts: 1640
6 22 Oct 2012
Anything that doesn't kill you or mutate you into a Walrus these days is called Healthy.

WELLP my limbs didn't drop off, this is totally great news for my wellbeing! ~D~
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doobie1 doobie1 VIC Posts: 6
7 12 Nov 2012
I have read many articles suggesting soya products can be damaging for the health if consumed long term. These days there are so many options available ex: rice or almond milk. There is also a line of meat substitutes called "QUORN'. They are made in England and are absolutely delicious! They make their products from fungi. Hamburgers, sausages, meatballs, stir fry pieces, sausage rolls, the list goes on! I didn't realize the dangers associated with soy, and was eating it by the bucketful for years. About 3 weeks ago I went through a thyroidectomy. Soy has a chemical in it (as well as other foods) that may contribute to the formation of goiter. This is a medical fact and has been scientifically proven. As stated in other posts, it may not have this affect on everyone. But I am pretty sure it contributed to my 10 nodule laden thyroid. Do your homework guys, and listen to your body. If I had known this information earlier, I would have taken steps to get rid of it from my diet. Protien can be sourced from so many other foods other than soy. Good luck and good healthhappy
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Louisa3 Louisa3 NSW Posts: 31
8 13 Nov 2012
mmmm, well it hasnt harmed me either, though when I had cancer I found I couldnt drink the stuff because it tasted like metal.  I am now cancer free and eat and drink soy every day, I also have HRT (mine is Éstalis continuous', which is sourced from yams unlike premaris which is sourced from perpetualy pregnant mare wee) if I stop taking HRT, soy does not remove my hot flushes, migraines infections and other meno problems.  Before my cancer, soy did help relieve some early peri menopausal problems such as minor hormone imbalance.  Conclusion for me....soy has some small oestragen lifting power, but not much.  It is however beneficial as a great potein source and is known to be great for the skin.  what exactly are the details about young men growing breasts? what other factors were involved? who says it was soley due to soy and why?
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Louisa3 Louisa3 NSW Posts: 31
9 13 Nov 2012
P.S I am against growing in the Amazon though, do you know which companies do this?
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Casper.s2 Casper.s2 SA Posts: 1640
10 14 Nov 2012
Louisadragon said:
P.S I am against growing in the Amazon though, do you know which companies do this?
the logging companies are making the money, the peasant farmers just plant soya after because it is easy, then others follow their example of making profit and just burn to make space, they can only get a few crops before the soil nutrient is depleted

just like our soils that have to be regularly fertilized where ancient mallee and other great big trees once supported delicate ecosystems, but proficient and well balanced at that

then it is used for grazing with grass crops that don't leech as much nutrient, hence why they contain 'fibre' more than anything, aka DUST

Soya I would have to say is a more pressing issue than Palm Oil
Although I hate Palms and no bug wants to inhabit where they grow, Bird/Mammal or Reptile
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