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Unethical vegetarians and vegans...

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xMISSMONSTERx xMISSMONSTERx WA Posts: 2582
151 21 Apr 2010
If we stopped feeding all our grain to slaughter animals, people in columbia might not be starving.

xMISSMONSTERx xMISSMONSTERx WA Posts: 2582
152 21 Apr 2010
Evonne said:
If it takes too many plants to feed a cow, then if we do not eat these animals there will be no plants for us to eat because they will eat them all, because there will be too many. where is the logic in that??? Are you saying cows should not even exist????? There is a reason why the name food chain was created and we are part of that chain. Hey, our ancestors used to be hunted as well.
Worldwide veganism wouldn't happen overnight if it ever happened at all, jesus.
Slowly the demand for such animals would deplete, so less would be bred for the purpose of meat, then there would be less cows, pigs etc. And they wouldn't be eating all the grain.

Evonne Evonne NSW Posts: 59
153 21 Apr 2010
You sound like a very distressed person and maybe you need to chill. This is not an attack on you. It all started because I said that some, but not all vegans are contradictive. Why is that bad, I have no idea. Maybe you feel bad about not being ethical or something like that. I eat both plants and some animals. I eat all organic and free range meat, fruit, veg and grain. Thats as ethical as I can get with food and I live my life trying to improve my errors which everyone has. It is damn hard to be ethical, especially in our modern world. We are constantly being mislead and being lied too.  Peace, hope you chill out and dont take things so personally all the time.

Evonne Evonne NSW Posts: 59
154 21 Apr 2010
Good point, which is why the meat industry in the West is completely unethical. This is why I was talking about the indiginous cultures. They do not breed and they could feed a whole tribe with one animal for a month.

What about the land for growing crops though. Do you think that they can include a little human rights with that or are we going to throw all people of their land to grow crop. If someone can please find a fair and truly ethical answer to that, I am wiling to listen. Remember there is alot of people to feed in this world, but how much land is there. Also organic produce needs manure. What is your solution to this? Also what about the water to nourish the produce. There is already a shortage in this world. Also then we must all buy only locally and in season.

Evonne Evonne NSW Posts: 59
155 21 Apr 2010
Firstly Grain fed meat is very bad for the animals health anyway. They feed grains to fatten them up, but the quality of the meat is low as grains do not supply enough nutrients. I do not agree with this. If peope actually think white processed rice provides enough nutrition to the poor they must be very uneducated about nutrition.

Also people of Colombia are starving in the cities, because they have been kicked off their land from US Corporations to extract oil, coal, palm oil, coffee, corn etc. My family in Taganga are fine because luckily for them they do not have huge amounts of natural resource and the US is not too interested in that area. They survive off their natural resource and live by the sea so they are able hunt their own food, grow their own veg and fruit.  But I have family memebers in Choco who have been displaced and even murdered so corporations can take over their land.

xMISSMONSTERx xMISSMONSTERx WA Posts: 2582
156 21 Apr 2010
Evonne said:
You sound like a very distressed person and maybe you need to chill. This is not an attack on you. It all started because I said that some, but not all vegans are contradictive. Why is that bad, I have no idea. Maybe you feel bad about not being ethical or something like that. I eat both plants and some animals. I eat all organic and free range meat, fruit, veg and grain. Thats as ethical as I can get with food and I live my life trying to improve my errors which everyone has. It is damn hard to be ethical, especially in our modern world. We are constantly being mislead and being lied too.  Peace, hope you chill out and dont take things so personally all the time.
I sound distressed because you're making me out to be a racist lunatic. I know what I do is right and good, so you can't make me think that what I'm doing is otherwise, sorry.

Wed have more water if we bred less animals for slaughter aswell.

What about all the people that get kicked off their land for indigenous people?

Evonne Evonne NSW Posts: 59
157 21 Apr 2010
Listen before white man came along, the real Australians were living just fine until they got kicked off their land. They are also not responsible for the destruction of the environment and endangered species. Hey BHP Milton still displaces native Aussies. It is their land afterall. If anyone should go, it is us, The english came here because the had used up all their shit and had nothing left. So who is the ones who use up all their natural resouces. Its obvious too me and dosn't take a rocket scientist to figure out.

Evonne Evonne NSW Posts: 59
158 21 Apr 2010
Which indigenous people moved people of their land??????????? Unless it was originally theirs. Thats something I would love more info on. Website please!!! Want to research that for sure.

Evonne Evonne NSW Posts: 59
159 21 Apr 2010
I only believe in grass fed meat. I want my meat healthy not fed on grains with no nutritional value. Grass is alot more easily grown than grains anyway.

xMISSMONSTERx xMISSMONSTERx WA Posts: 2582
160 21 Apr 2010
Invasion is history, it happened everywhere.

The australian aborigines came to australia from newzealand and such aswell, they weren't ALWAYS in Australia. Get over yourself.

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