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Are there any dairy brands that don't kill calfs?

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K2 K2 ACT Posts: 7
31 4 Aug 2016
Barambah organic dairy - they keep the calves with their mothers for much longer periods and do not treat bobby calves as "waste products". They keep and raise the male calves until they are adults. They also allow the cows to breed naturally rather than have them impregnated trough artificial insemination. IGAs carry it as do many organic stores.
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K2 K2 ACT Posts: 7
32 4 Aug 2016
Actually Barambah does state that it sends them to other farms that they own. The cows are raised to about 4 years of age before being sent for slaughter. Just thought I'd add to the facts.
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K2 K2 ACT Posts: 7
33 4 Aug 2016
If we can at least encourage ethical dairy practices like those by Barambah and push for this to become the industry benchmark - that would be a great outcome as the suffering of the animals would be greatly reduced. I admire and respect the vegan choice but I can also see how showing that animal products can be produced in a way that cares for the animals could do a lot of good in the world because we are a long, long way from everyone becoming vegan.
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robert99 robert99 Sweden Posts: 1360
34 4 Aug 2016
K2 said:
animal products can be produced in a way that cares for the animals could do a lot of good in the world because we are a long, long way from everyone becoming vegan.
Farmers care for their animals like sweatshop factory owners care for their workers or IS for their sex slaves. They all have their justifications but the end result is the same..
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K2 K2 ACT Posts: 7
35 4 Aug 2016
I think you are missing my point.
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robert99 robert99 Sweden Posts: 1360
36 4 Aug 2016
I think you are missing the fundamental idea of animal farming.
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K2 K2 ACT Posts: 7
37 15 Aug 2016
OK, point taken,  perhaps if I say, reduces suffering (rather than cares for). My point is that raising the industry benchmark by supporting those who do have practices that reduce suffering and allow for a kinder approach is a good thing, given that a future where no-one consumes dairy is probably a long way off. At least, in the interim, it would mean better welfare for dairy cows and calves - which I think is Animal Australia's focus.
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robert99 robert99 Sweden Posts: 1360
38 16 Aug 2016
"given that a future where no-one consumes dairy is probably a long way off" So that makes it ok then to carry on as now. I think supporters of slavery said the same thing, and womens rights and colonists etc (australia eg?) etc
"better welfare for dairy cows and calves" - still missing the fundamental point of dairy farming - I get the same bs every day where I live.
I'm waiting for the arguement that if no one ate dairy they'd be no cows - "and you say you are for animal's welfare!" Yep ...
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gabriewa gabriewa NSW Posts: 1
39 19 Aug 2016
K2 said:
OK, point taken,  perhaps if I say, reduces suffering (rather than cares for). My point is that raising the industry benchmark by supporting those who do have practices that reduce suffering and allow for a kinder approach is a good thing, given that a future where no-one consumes dairy is probably a long way off. At least, in the interim, it would mean better welfare for dairy cows and calves - which I think is Animal Australia's focus.
I agree with what you have to say there 100%. I think the ideal world is everyone suddenly becomes vegan and no more animals have to suffer, which im on board with, but this happening soon is obviously not going to happen. If suffering can be reduced, then I am on board with it, with the goal of it going away completely eventually.
I am new to animal activisim, but I came into it on my own, not after years of hearing and reading about this stuff being shouted at me. I rescued a stray cat randomly and it just went from there. People on here should let others come into cruelty free and veganism at their own rate, and I think the numbers will increase. Its not in human nature to be ok when someone tells you to do something, no matter what backing data they have behind them

You have to look at the world as it is and then go from there. Hopefully "humane" farming is step 1, step 2 can be its eradication, but that should happen organically (no pun intended)
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robert99 robert99 Sweden Posts: 1360
40 19 Aug 2016
"You have to look at the world as it is and then go from there." Exactly.
To have to put up with "humane killing", "ethical meat", "eco-slaughter" etc though is just to have to listen to farming gibberish.
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